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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>
To: Balbir Singh <bsingharora@gmail.com>
Cc: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Daisuke Nishimura <nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>, Ying Han <yinghan@google.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Glauber Costa <glommer@parallels.com>,
	Kir Kolyshkin <kir@parallels.com>,
	Pavel Emelianov <xemul@parallels.com>,
	GregThelen <gthelen@google.com>,
	"pjt@google.com" <pjt@google.com>,
	Tim Hockin <thockin@google.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Paul Menage <paul@paulmenage.org>,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>
Subject: Re: [RFD] Isolated memory cgroups again
Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 11:26:16 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20111022092524.GA5497@tiehlicka.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKTCnz=iZp37sBfY++HUU0oscskFF_UWYeFYtAujtQh4_B=vHQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri 21-10-11 21:34:06, Balbir Singh wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 7:29 AM, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
> <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, 19 Oct 2011 18:33:09 -0700
> > Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi all,
> >> this is a request for discussion (I hope we can touch this during memcg
> >> meeting during the upcoming KS). I have brought this up earlier this
> >> year before LSF (http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.mm/60464).
> >> The patch got much smaller since then due to excellent Johannes' memcg
> >> naturalization work (http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.mm/68724)
> >> which this is based on.
> >
> 
> Hi, Michal

Hi Balbir,

> 
> I'd like to understand, what the isolation is for?
> 
> 1. Is it an alternative to memory guarantees?

Not really, it is more about resident working set guarantee and workload
isolations wrt. memory.

> 2. How is this different from doing cpusets (fake NUMA) and isolating them?

Yes this would work. I have not many experiences in this area but I
guess the primary stopper for fake NUMA is that it is x86_64 only,
configuration is static and little bit awkward to use (nodes of the same
size e.g.).
I understood that google is moving out of fake NUMA towards memcg for those
reasons.

> 
> Just trying to catch up,
> Balbir

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  reply	other threads:[~2011-10-22  9:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-10-20  1:33 [RFD] Isolated memory cgroups again Michal Hocko
2011-10-20  1:59 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-10-20 16:30   ` Michal Hocko
2011-10-21 16:04   ` Balbir Singh
2011-10-22  9:26     ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2011-10-21 16:11   ` Balbir Singh
2011-10-20  8:55 ` Glauber Costa
2011-10-20 16:42   ` Michal Hocko
2011-10-20 23:41 ` Ying Han
2011-10-21  2:45   ` Michal Hocko
2011-10-21  3:17     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-10-21 20:00       ` Ying Han
2011-10-22  9:31         ` Michal Hocko
2011-10-21  8:39   ` Glauber Costa
2011-10-21 12:16     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-10-22  9:47     ` Michal Hocko

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