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From: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
To: Colin Cross <ccross@android.com>
Cc: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: avoid livelock on !__GFP_FS allocations
Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 12:36:08 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20111101123608.GD25123@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMbhsRRZBUcfv5kT4aYm=Z3+kc-usYJVqyc_+1gAEy-4yH_nPQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 12:22:14AM -0700, Colin Cross wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 12:10 AM, David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com> wrote:
> > On Tue, 25 Oct 2011, Colin Cross wrote:
> >
> >> > gfp_allowed_mask is initialized to GFP_BOOT_MASK to start so that __GFP_FS
> >> > is never allowed before the slab allocator is completely initialized, so
> >> > you've now implicitly made all early boot allocations to be __GFP_NORETRY
> >> > even though they may not pass it.
> >>
> >> Only before interrupts are enabled, and then isn't it vulnerable to
> >> the same livelock?  Interrupts are off, single cpu, kswapd can't run.
> >> If an allocation ever failed, which seems unlikely, why would retrying
> >> help?
> >>
> >
> > If you want to claim gfp_allowed_mask as a pm-only entity, then I see no
> > problem with this approach.  However, if gfp_allowed_mask would be allowed
> > to temporarily change after init for another purpose then it would make
> > sense to retry because another allocation with __GFP_FS on another cpu or
> > kswapd could start making progress could allow for future memory freeing.
> >
> > The suggestion to add a hook directly into a pm-interface was so that we
> > could isolate it only to suspend and, to me, is the most maintainable
> > solution.
> >
> 
> pm_restrict_gfp_mask seems to claim gfp_allowed_mask as owned by pm at runtime:
> "gfp_allowed_mask also should only be modified with pm_mutex held,
> unless the suspend/hibernate code is guaranteed not to run in parallel
> with that modification"
> 
> I think we've wrapped around to Mel's original patch, which adds a
> pm_suspending() helper that is implemented next to
> pm_restrict_gfp_mask.  His patch puts the check inside
> !did_some_progress instead of should_alloc_retry, which I prefer as it
> at least keeps trying until reclaim isn't working.  Pekka was trying
> to avoid adding pm-specific checks into the allocator, which is why I
> stuck to the symptom (__GFP_FS is clear) rather than the cause (PM).
> 

Right now, I'm still no seeing a problem with the pm_suspending() check
as it's made for a corner-case situation in a very slow path that is
self-documenting. This thread has died somewhat and there is still no
fix merged. Is someone cooking up a patch they would prefer as an
alternative? If not, I'm going to resubmit the fix based on
pm_suspending.

-- 
Mel Gorman
SUSE Labs

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  reply	other threads:[~2011-11-01 12:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-10-25  6:39 [PATCH] mm: avoid livelock on !__GFP_FS allocations Colin Cross
2011-10-25  7:40 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-10-25  7:51   ` Colin Cross
2011-10-25  8:08     ` Pekka Enberg
2011-10-25 22:12     ` David Rientjes
2011-10-25  9:09 ` Mel Gorman
2011-10-25  9:26   ` Colin Cross
2011-10-25 11:23     ` Mel Gorman
2011-10-25 17:08       ` Colin Cross
2011-11-01 12:28         ` Mel Gorman
2011-10-25 19:39       ` Pekka Enberg
2011-11-01 12:29         ` Mel Gorman
2011-10-25 19:29   ` Colin Cross
2011-10-25 22:18   ` David Rientjes
2011-10-26  1:46     ` Colin Cross
2011-10-26  5:47       ` David Rientjes
2011-10-26  6:12         ` David Rientjes
2011-10-26  6:16           ` Colin Cross
2011-10-26  6:24             ` David Rientjes
2011-10-26  6:26               ` Colin Cross
2011-10-26  6:33                 ` David Rientjes
2011-10-26  6:36                   ` Colin Cross
2011-10-26  6:51                     ` David Rientjes
2011-10-26  6:57                       ` Colin Cross
2011-10-26  7:10                         ` David Rientjes
2011-10-26  7:22                           ` Colin Cross
2011-11-01 12:36                             ` Mel Gorman [this message]
2011-10-25 22:10 ` David Rientjes
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-11-14 14:04 Mel Gorman
2011-11-14 18:38 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-11-15 10:30   ` Mel Gorman
2011-11-14 23:03 ` Andrew Morton
2011-11-15 10:42   ` Mel Gorman
2011-11-15 15:43     ` Mel Gorman
2011-11-15 16:13 ` Minchan Kim
2011-11-15 17:36   ` Mel Gorman
2011-11-16  0:22     ` Minchan Kim
2011-11-16  0:28       ` Colin Cross
2011-11-16  0:45         ` Minchan Kim
2011-11-16  7:10           ` Pekka Enberg
2011-11-16 21:44             ` David Rientjes
2011-11-16 21:58               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-11-16 22:07               ` Minchan Kim
2011-11-16 22:48                 ` David Rientjes
2011-11-15 21:40 ` David Rientjes
2011-11-16  9:52   ` Mel Gorman
2011-11-16 21:39     ` David Rientjes

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