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From: Lennart Poettering <mzxreary@0pointer.de>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: Davidlohr Bueso <dave@gnu.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] tmpfs: support user quotas
Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2011 15:30:10 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20111107143010.GA3630@tango.0pointer.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20111107135823.3a7cdc53@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>

On Mon, 07.11.11 13:58, Alan Cox (alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk) wrote:

> 
> > Right, rlimit approach guarantees a simple way of dealing with users
> > across all tmpfs instances.
> 
> Which is almost certainly not what you want to happen. Think about direct
> rendering.

I don't see what direct rendering has to do with closing the security
hole that /dev/shm currently is.

> For simple stuff tmpfs already supports size/nr_blocks/nr_inodes mount
> options so you can mount private resource constrained tmpfs objects
> already without kernel changes. No rlimit hacks needed - and rlimit is
> the wrong API anyway.

Uh? I am pretty sure we don't want to mount a private tmpfs for each
user in /dev/shm and /tmp. If you have 500 users you'd have 500 tmpfs on
/tmp and on /dev/shm. Despite that without some ugly namespace hackery
you couldn't make them all appear in /tmp as /dev/shm without
subdirectories. Don't forget that /dev/shm and /tmp are an established
userspace API.

Resource limits are exactly the API that makes sense here, because:

a) we only want one tmpfs on /tmp, and one tmpfs on /dev/shm, not 500 on
each for each user

b) we cannot move /dev/shm, /tmp around without breaking userspace
massively

c) we want a global limit across all tmpfs file systems for each user

d) we don't want to have to upload the quota database into each tmpfs at
mount time.

And hence: a per user RLIMIT is exactly the minimal solution we want
here.

Lennart

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-11-07 14:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-11-06 21:15 [RFC PATCH] tmpfs: support user quotas Davidlohr Bueso
2011-11-06 22:10 ` Lennart Poettering
2011-11-07  7:31 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-11-07 11:29   ` Lennart Poettering
2011-11-07 14:20     ` Davidlohr Bueso
2011-11-07 13:58       ` Alan Cox
2011-11-07 14:27         ` Kay Sievers
2011-11-07 22:53           ` Alan Cox
2011-11-07 22:57             ` Glauber Costa
2011-11-07 23:07             ` Lennart Poettering
2011-11-07 23:43               ` Alan Cox
2011-11-08  0:25                 ` Lennart Poettering
2011-11-08  0:46                   ` Alan Cox
2011-11-07 14:30         ` Lennart Poettering [this message]
2011-11-07 22:15           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-11-07 22:37             ` Kay Sievers
2011-11-08  0:33               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-11-07 23:01           ` Alan Cox
2011-11-07  9:11 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2011-11-07 14:49   ` Davidlohr Bueso

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