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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Srikar Dronamraju <srikar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Ananth N Mavinakayanahalli <ananth@in.ibm.com>,
	Jim Keniston <jkenisto@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>, Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@infradead.org>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <masami.hiramatsu.pt@hitachi.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Anton Arapov <anton@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/6] uprobes: kill uprobes_srcu/uprobe_srcu_id
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2012 19:29:57 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120423172957.GA29708@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1335166842.28150.92.camel@twins>

On 04/23, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>
> On Mon, 2012-04-23 at 12:54 +0530, Srikar Dronamraju wrote:
> > * Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> [2012-04-23 09:14:00]:
> >
> > > On Fri, 2012-04-20 at 20:37 +0200, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> > > > Say, a user wants to probe /sbin/init only. What if init forks?
> > > > We should remove breakpoints from child->mm somehow.
> > >
> > > How is that hard? dup_mmap() only copies the VMAs, this doesn't actually
> > > copy the breakpoint. So the child doesn't have a breakpoint to be
> > > removed.
> > >
> >
> > Because the pages are COWED, the breakpoint gets copied over to the
> > child. If we dont want the breakpoints to be not visible to the child,
> > then we would have to remove them explicitly based on the filter (i.e if
> > and if we had inserted breakpoints conditionally based on filter).
>
> I thought we didn't COW shared maps since the fault handler will fill in
> the pages right and only anon stuff gets copied.

Confused...

Do you mean the "Don't copy ptes where a page fault will fill them correctly"
check in copy_page_range() ? Yes, but this vma should have ->anon_vma != NULL
if it has the breakpoint installed by uprobes.

Yes, we do not COW this page during dup_mmap(), but the new child's pte
should point to the same page with bp.

OK, I guess I misunderstood.

> > Once we add the conditional breakpoint insertion (which is tricky),
>
> How so?

I agree with Srikar this doesn't look simple to me. First of all,
currently it is not easy to find the tasks which use this ->mm.
OK, we can simply do for_each_process() under tasklist, but this is
not very nice.

But again, to me this is not the main problem.

> > Conditional removal
> > of breakpoints in fork path would just be an extension of the
> > conditional breakpoint insertion.
>
> Right, I don't think that removal is particularly hard if needed.

I agree that remove_breakpoint() itself is not that hard, probably.

But the whole idea of filtering is not clear to me. I mean, when/how
we should call the filter, and what should be the argument.
task_struct? Probably, but I am not sure.

And btw fork()->dup_mmap() should call the filter too. Suppose that
uprobe_consumer wants to trace the task T and its children, this looks
very natural.

And we need to rework uprobe_register(). It can't simply return if
this (inode, offset) already has the consumer.

So far I think this needs more thinking. And imho we should merge the
working code Srikar already has, then try to add this (agreed, very
important) optimization.

Oleg.

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  reply	other threads:[~2012-04-23 17:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-04-05 22:20 [RFC 0/6] uprobes: kill uprobes_srcu/uprobe_srcu_id Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-05 22:20 ` [PATCH 1/6] uprobes: introduce find_active_uprobe() Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-05 22:21 ` [PATCH 2/6] uprobes: introduce is_swbp_at_addr_fast() Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-16 10:08   ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-16 14:44     ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-16 14:55       ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-16 15:34         ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-17 10:08           ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-17 17:09             ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-17 19:53               ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-05 22:21 ` [PATCH 3/6] uprobes: teach find_active_uprobe() to provide the "is_swbp" info Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-05 22:21 ` [PATCH 4/6] uprobes: change register_for_each_vma() to take mm->mmap_sem for writing Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-05 22:22 ` [PATCH 5/6] uprobes: teach handle_swbp() to rely on "is_swbp" rather than uprobes_srcu Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-05 22:22 ` [PATCH 6/6] uprobes: kill uprobes_srcu/uprobe_srcu_id Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-14 11:16 ` [RFC 0/6] " Ingo Molnar
2012-04-16 11:31   ` Srikar Dronamraju
2012-04-16 14:41     ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-25 12:52       ` Srikar Dronamraju
2012-04-25 14:22         ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-14 13:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-14 20:52   ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-15 10:51     ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-15 19:53       ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-15 21:48         ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-15 23:44           ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-16 10:16             ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-16 21:47               ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-20 10:14                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-20 10:16                   ` Srikar Dronamraju
2012-04-20 18:58                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-20 18:37                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-23  7:14                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-23  7:24                       ` Srikar Dronamraju
2012-04-23  7:40                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-23 17:29                           ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2012-04-23 19:18                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-23 20:50                               ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-23 21:25                                 ` Oleg Nesterov

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