linux-mm.kvack.org archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
To: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>
Cc: Glauber Costa <glommer@parallels.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com,
	Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, Li Zefan <lizefan@huawei.com>,
	Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>,
	Suleiman Souhlal <suleiman@google.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	devel@openvz.org, David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 12/28] slab: pass memcg parameter to kmem_cache_create
Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 13:01:37 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120530110134.GA25094@somewhere.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1205291149280.8406@router.home>

On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 11:52:55AM -0500, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> On Tue, 29 May 2012, Glauber Costa wrote:
> 
> > > How do you detect that someone is touching it?
> >
> > kmem_alloc_cache will create mem_cgroup_get_kmem_cache.
> > (protected by static_branches, so won't happen if you don't have at least
> > non-root memcg using it)
> >
> > * Then it detects which memcg the calling process belongs to,
> > * if it is the root memcg, go back to the allocation as quickly as we
> >   can
> > * otherwise, in the creation process, you will notice that each cache
> >   has an index. memcg will store pointers to the copies and find them by
> >   the index.
> >
> > From this point on, all the code of the caches is reused (except for
> > accounting the page)
> 
> Well kmem_cache_alloc cache is the performance critical hotpath.
> 
> If you are already there and doing all of that then would it not be better
> to simply count the objects allocated and freed per cgroup? Directly
> increment and decrement counters in a cgroup? You do not really need to
> duplicate the kmem_cache structure and do not need to modify allocators if
> you are willing to take that kind of a performance hit. Put a wrapper
> around kmem_cache_alloc/free and count things.

I believe one of the issues is also that a task can migrate to another cgroup
anytime. But an object that has been charged to a cgroup must be later uncharged
to the same, unless you move the charge as you move the task. But then it means
you need to keep track of the allocations per task, and you also need to be able
to do that reverse mapping (object -> allocating task) because your object can
be allocated by task A but later freed by task B. Then when you do the uncharge
it must happen to the cgroup of A, not the one of B.

That all would be much more complicated and performance sensitive than what this
patchset does. Dealing with duplicate caches for accounting seem to me a good tradeoff
between allocation performance hot path and maintaining cgroups semantics.

--
To unsubscribe, send a message with 'unsubscribe linux-mm' in
the body to majordomo@kvack.org.  For more info on Linux MM,
see: http://www.linux-mm.org/ .
Fight unfair telecom internet charges in Canada: sign http://stopthemeter.ca/
Don't email: <a href=mailto:"dont@kvack.org"> email@kvack.org </a>

  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-05-30 11:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 90+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-05-25 13:03 [PATCH v3 00/28] kmem limitation for memcg Glauber Costa
2012-05-25 13:03 ` [PATCH v3 01/28] slab: move FULL state transition to an initcall Glauber Costa
2012-05-25 13:03 ` [PATCH v3 02/28] memcg: Always free struct memcg through schedule_work() Glauber Costa
2012-05-25 13:03 ` [PATCH v3 03/28] slab: rename gfpflags to allocflags Glauber Costa
2012-05-25 13:03 ` [PATCH v3 04/28] memcg: Make it possible to use the stock for more than one page Glauber Costa
2012-05-25 13:03 ` [PATCH v3 05/28] memcg: Reclaim when more than one page needed Glauber Costa
2012-05-29 14:19   ` Christoph Lameter
2012-05-29 14:20     ` Christoph Lameter
2012-05-29 15:45       ` Glauber Costa
2012-05-25 13:03 ` [PATCH v3 06/28] slab: use obj_size field of struct kmem_cache when not debugging Glauber Costa
2012-05-25 13:03 ` [PATCH v3 07/28] memcg: change defines to an enum Glauber Costa
2012-05-25 13:03 ` [PATCH v3 08/28] res_counter: don't force return value checking in res_counter_charge_nofail Glauber Costa
2012-05-25 13:03 ` [PATCH v3 09/28] kmem slab accounting basic infrastructure Glauber Costa
2012-05-25 13:03 ` [PATCH v3 10/28] slab/slub: struct memcg_params Glauber Costa
2012-05-25 13:03 ` [PATCH v3 11/28] slub: consider a memcg parameter in kmem_create_cache Glauber Costa
2012-05-25 13:03 ` [PATCH v3 12/28] slab: pass memcg parameter to kmem_cache_create Glauber Costa
2012-05-29 14:27   ` Christoph Lameter
2012-05-29 15:50     ` Glauber Costa
2012-05-29 16:33       ` Christoph Lameter
2012-05-29 16:36         ` Glauber Costa
2012-05-29 16:52           ` Christoph Lameter
2012-05-29 16:59             ` Glauber Costa
2012-05-30 11:01             ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2012-05-25 13:03 ` [PATCH v3 13/28] slub: create duplicate cache Glauber Costa
2012-05-29 14:36   ` Christoph Lameter
2012-05-29 15:56     ` Glauber Costa
2012-05-29 16:05       ` Christoph Lameter
2012-05-29 17:05         ` Glauber Costa
2012-05-29 17:25           ` Christoph Lameter
2012-05-29 17:27             ` Glauber Costa
2012-05-29 19:26               ` Christoph Lameter
2012-05-29 19:40                 ` Glauber Costa
2012-05-29 19:55                   ` Christoph Lameter
2012-05-29 20:08                     ` Glauber Costa
2012-05-29 20:21                       ` Christoph Lameter
2012-05-29 20:25                         ` Glauber Costa
2012-05-30  1:29                           ` Tejun Heo
2012-05-30  7:28                             ` [Devel] " James Bottomley
2012-05-30  7:54                             ` Glauber Costa
2012-05-30  8:02                               ` Tejun Heo
2012-05-30 15:37                                 ` Christoph Lameter
2012-05-29 20:57                         ` Suleiman Souhlal
2012-05-25 13:03 ` [PATCH v3 14/28] slab: " Glauber Costa
2012-05-25 13:03 ` [PATCH v3 15/28] slub: always get the cache from its page in kfree Glauber Costa
2012-05-29 14:42   ` Christoph Lameter
2012-05-29 15:59     ` Glauber Costa
2012-05-25 13:03 ` [PATCH v3 16/28] memcg: kmem controller charge/uncharge infrastructure Glauber Costa
2012-05-29 14:47   ` Christoph Lameter
2012-05-29 16:00     ` Glauber Costa
2012-05-30 12:17   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-05-30 12:26     ` Glauber Costa
2012-05-30 12:34   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-05-30 12:38     ` Glauber Costa
2012-05-30 13:11       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-05-30 13:09         ` Glauber Costa
2012-05-30 13:04   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-05-30 13:06     ` Glauber Costa
2012-05-30 13:37       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-05-30 13:37         ` Glauber Costa
2012-05-30 13:53           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-05-30 13:55             ` Glauber Costa
2012-05-30 15:33               ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-05-30 16:16                 ` Glauber Costa
2012-05-25 13:03 ` [PATCH v3 17/28] skip memcg kmem allocations in specified code regions Glauber Costa
2012-05-25 13:03 ` [PATCH v3 18/28] slub: charge allocation to a memcg Glauber Costa
2012-05-29 14:51   ` Christoph Lameter
2012-05-29 16:06     ` Glauber Costa
2012-05-25 13:03 ` [PATCH v3 19/28] slab: per-memcg accounting of slab caches Glauber Costa
2012-05-29 14:52   ` Christoph Lameter
2012-05-29 16:07     ` Glauber Costa
2012-05-29 16:13       ` Glauber Costa
2012-05-25 13:03 ` [PATCH v3 20/28] memcg: disable kmem code when not in use Glauber Costa
2012-05-25 13:03 ` [PATCH v3 21/28] memcg: destroy memcg caches Glauber Costa
2012-05-25 13:03 ` [PATCH v3 22/28] memcg/slub: shrink dead caches Glauber Costa
2012-05-25 13:03 ` [PATCH v3 23/28] slab: Track all the memcg children of a kmem_cache Glauber Costa
2012-05-25 13:03 ` [PATCH v3 24/28] memcg: Per-memcg memory.kmem.slabinfo file Glauber Costa
2012-05-25 13:03 ` [PATCH v3 25/28] slub: create slabinfo file for memcg Glauber Costa
2012-05-25 13:03 ` [PATCH v3 26/28] slub: track all children of a kmem cache Glauber Costa
2012-05-25 13:03 ` [PATCH v3 27/28] memcg: propagate kmem limiting information to children Glauber Costa
2012-05-25 13:03 ` [PATCH v3 28/28] Documentation: add documentation for slab tracker for memcg Glauber Costa
2012-05-25 13:34 ` [PATCH v3 00/28] kmem limitation " Michal Hocko
2012-05-25 14:34   ` Christoph Lameter
2012-05-28  8:32     ` Glauber Costa
2012-05-29 15:07       ` Christoph Lameter
2012-05-29 15:44         ` Glauber Costa
2012-05-29 16:01           ` Christoph Lameter
2012-06-07 10:26 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-06-07 10:53   ` Glauber Costa
2012-06-07 14:00     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-06-14  2:24       ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=20120530110134.GA25094@somewhere.redhat.com \
    --to=fweisbec@gmail.com \
    --cc=cgroups@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=cl@linux.com \
    --cc=devel@openvz.org \
    --cc=glommer@parallels.com \
    --cc=gthelen@google.com \
    --cc=hannes@cmpxchg.org \
    --cc=kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-mm@kvack.org \
    --cc=lizefan@huawei.com \
    --cc=mhocko@suse.cz \
    --cc=penberg@cs.helsinki.fi \
    --cc=rientjes@google.com \
    --cc=suleiman@google.com \
    --cc=tj@kernel.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).