From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujtisu.com>,
Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>, Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Ying Han <yinghan@google.com>,
Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>, Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Fengguang Wu <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH -mm] memcg: prevent from OOM with too many dirty pages
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 15:00:14 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120619150014.1ebc108c.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1340117404-30348-1-git-send-email-mhocko@suse.cz>
On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 16:50:04 +0200
Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz> wrote:
> Current implementation of dirty pages throttling is not memcg aware which makes
> it easy to have LRUs full of dirty pages which might lead to memcg OOM if the
> hard limit is small and so the lists are scanned faster than pages written
> back.
This is a bit hard to parse. I changed it to
: The current implementation of dirty pages throttling is not memcg aware
: which makes it easy to have memcg LRUs full of dirty pages. Without
: throttling, these LRUs can be scanned faster than the rate of writeback,
: leading to memcg OOM conditions when the hard limit is small.
does that still say what you meant to say?
> The solution is far from being ideal - long term solution is memcg aware
> dirty throttling - but it is meant to be a band aid until we have a real
> fix.
Fair enough I guess. The fix is small and simple and if it makes the
kernel better, why not?
Would like to see a few more acks though. Why hasn't everyone been
hitting this?
> We are seeing this happening during nightly backups which are placed into
> containers to prevent from eviction of the real working set.
Well that's a trick which we want to work well. It's a killer
featurelet for people who wonder what all this memcg crap is for ;)
> The change affects only memcg reclaim and only when we encounter PageReclaim
> pages which is a signal that the reclaim doesn't catch up on with the writers
> so somebody should be throttled. This could be potentially unfair because it
> could be somebody else from the group who gets throttled on behalf of the
> writer but as writers need to allocate as well and they allocate in higher rate
> the probability that only innocent processes would be penalized is not that
> high.
OK.
> ...
>
> --- a/mm/vmscan.c
> +++ b/mm/vmscan.c
> @@ -720,9 +720,20 @@ static unsigned long shrink_page_list(struct list_head *page_list,
> (PageSwapCache(page) && (sc->gfp_mask & __GFP_IO));
>
> if (PageWriteback(page)) {
> - nr_writeback++;
> - unlock_page(page);
> - goto keep;
> + /*
> + * memcg doesn't have any dirty pages throttling so we
> + * could easily OOM just because too many pages are in
> + * writeback from reclaim and there is nothing else to
> + * reclaim.
> + */
> + if (PageReclaim(page)
> + && may_enter_fs && !global_reclaim(sc))
> + wait_on_page_writeback(page);
> + else {
> + nr_writeback++;
> + unlock_page(page);
> + goto keep;
> + }
A couple of things here.
With my gcc and CONFIG_CGROUP_MEM_RES_CTLR=n (for gawd's sake can we
please rename this to CONFIG_MEMCG?), this:
--- a/mm/vmscan.c~memcg-prevent-from-oom-with-too-many-dirty-pages-fix
+++ a/mm/vmscan.c
@@ -726,8 +726,8 @@ static unsigned long shrink_page_list(st
* writeback from reclaim and there is nothing else to
* reclaim.
*/
- if (PageReclaim(page)
- && may_enter_fs && !global_reclaim(sc))
+ if (!global_reclaim(sc) && PageReclaim(page) &&
+ may_enter_fs)
wait_on_page_writeback(page);
else {
nr_writeback++;
reduces vmscan.o's .text by 48 bytes(!). Because the compiler can
avoid generating any code for PageReclaim() and perhaps the
may_enter_fs test. Because global_reclaim() evaluates to constant
true. Do you think that's an improvement?
Also, why do we test may_enter_fs here? I should have been able to
work out your reasoning from either code comments or changelogging but
I cannot (bad). I don't *think* there's a deadlock issue here? If the
page is now under writeback, that writeback *will* complete?
Finally, I wonder if there should be some timeout of that wait. I
don't know why, but I wouldn't be surprised if we hit some glitch which
causes us to add one!
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-06-19 22:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-06-19 14:50 [PATCH -mm] memcg: prevent from OOM with too many dirty pages Michal Hocko
2012-06-19 22:00 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2012-06-20 8:27 ` Michal Hocko
2012-06-20 9:20 ` Mel Gorman
2012-06-20 9:55 ` Fengguang Wu
2012-06-20 9:59 ` Michal Hocko
2012-06-20 10:11 ` [PATCH v2 " Michal Hocko
2012-07-12 1:57 ` Hugh Dickins
2012-07-12 2:21 ` Andrew Morton
2012-07-12 3:13 ` Hugh Dickins
2012-07-12 7:05 ` Michal Hocko
2012-07-12 21:13 ` Andrew Morton
2012-07-12 22:42 ` Hugh Dickins
2012-07-13 8:21 ` Michal Hocko
2012-07-16 8:30 ` Hugh Dickins
2012-07-16 8:35 ` [PATCH mmotm] memcg: further prevent " Hugh Dickins
2012-07-16 9:26 ` Michal Hocko
2012-07-17 4:52 ` Hugh Dickins
2012-07-17 6:33 ` Michal Hocko
2012-07-16 21:08 ` Andrew Morton
2012-07-16 8:10 ` [PATCH v2 -mm] memcg: prevent from " Hugh Dickins
2012-07-16 8:48 ` Michal Hocko
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