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From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>
Cc: Glauber Costa <glommer@parallels.com>,
	cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] memcg: first step towards hierarchical controller
Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 15:14:52 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120626221452.GA15811@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120626220809.GA4653@tiehlicka.suse.cz>

Hello, Michal.

On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 12:08:09AM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> According to my experience, people usually create deeper subtrees
> just because they want to have memcg hierarchy together with other
> controller(s) and the other controller requires a different topology
> but then they do not care about memory.* attributes in parents.
> Those cases are not affected by this change because parents are
> unlimited by default.
> Deeper subtrees without hierarchy and independent limits are usually
> mis-configurations, and we would like to hear about those to help to fix
> them, or they are unfixable usecases which we want to know about as well
> (because then we have a blocker for the unified cgroup hierarchy, don't
> we).

Yeah, this is something I'm seriously considering doing from cgroup
core.  ie. generating a warning message if the user nests cgroups w/
controllers which don't support full hierarchy.

> >   Note that the default should still be flat hierarchy.
> > 
> > 2. Mark flat hierarchy deprecated and produce a warning message if
> >    memcg is mounted w/o hierarchy option for a year or two.
> 
> I would agree with you on this with many kernel configurables but
> this one doesn't fall in. There is a trivial fallback (set root to
> use_hierarchy=0) so the mount option seems like an overkill - yet
> another API to keep for some time...

Just disallow clearing .use_hierarchy if it was mounted with the
option?  We can later either make the file RO 1 for compatibility's
sake or remove it.

> So in short, I do think we should go the sanity path and end up
> with hierarchical trees and sooner we start the better.

I do agree with you in principle, but I still don't think we can
switch the default behavior underneath the users.

Thanks.

-- 
tejun

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  reply	other threads:[~2012-06-26 22:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-06-26 15:47 [PATCH 0/2] fix and deprecate use_hierarchy file Glauber Costa
2012-06-26 15:47 ` [PATCH 1/2] fix bad behavior in " Glauber Costa
2012-06-26 15:52   ` Michal Hocko
2012-06-26 15:54   ` Johannes Weiner
2012-06-26 22:25   ` Andrew Morton
2012-06-26 22:30     ` Tejun Heo
2012-06-26 15:47 ` [PATCH 2/2] memcg: first step towards hierarchical controller Glauber Costa
2012-06-26 16:15   ` Michal Hocko
2012-06-26 16:37     ` Glauber Costa
2012-06-26 17:54       ` Michal Hocko
2012-06-26 18:04   ` Tejun Heo
2012-06-26 18:55     ` Johannes Weiner
2012-06-26 19:14       ` Tejun Heo
2012-06-26 20:59         ` Johannes Weiner
2012-06-26 21:19           ` Tejun Heo
2012-06-27  8:57             ` Glauber Costa
2012-06-27 17:07               ` Tejun Heo
2012-06-26 22:08     ` Michal Hocko
2012-06-26 22:14       ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2012-06-26 22:17         ` Tejun Heo
2012-06-27  8:52         ` Glauber Costa
2012-06-27 16:58           ` Tejun Heo
2012-06-27 12:51         ` Michal Hocko
2012-06-27 12:49           ` Glauber Costa
2012-06-27 17:33           ` Tejun Heo
2012-06-28  8:46             ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-06-28  9:12               ` Glauber Costa

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