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From: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>
To: Dan Magenheimer <dan.magenheimer@oracle.com>
Cc: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>, Alex Shi <alex.shi@intel.com>,
	Seth Jennings <sjenning@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	devel@driverdev.osuosl.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Robert Jennings <rcj@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Nitin Gupta <ngupta@vflare.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] x86: add local_tlb_flush_kernel_range()
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 11:39:11 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120627153911.GH17154@phenom.dumpdata.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <90bcc2c8-bcac-4620-b3c0-6b65f8d9174d@default>

On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 08:12:56AM -0700, Dan Magenheimer wrote:
> > From: Minchan Kim [mailto:minchan@kernel.org]
> > Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] x86: add local_tlb_flush_kernel_range()
> > 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > On 06/27/2012 03:14 PM, Alex Shi wrote:
> > 
> > > On 06/27/2012 01:53 PM, Minchan Kim wrote:
> > >
> > >> On 06/26/2012 01:14 AM, Seth Jennings wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> This patch adds support for a local_tlb_flush_kernel_range()
> > >>> function for the x86 arch.  This function allows for CPU-local
> > >>> TLB flushing, potentially using invlpg for single entry flushing,
> > >>> using an arch independent function name.
> > >>>
> > >>> Signed-off-by: Seth Jennings <sjenning@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Anyway, we don't matter INVLPG_BREAK_EVEN_PAGES's optimization point is 8 or something.
> > >
> > >
> > > Different CPU type has different balance point on the invlpg replacing
> > > flush all. and some CPU never get benefit from invlpg, So, it's better
> > > to use different value for different CPU, not a fixed
> > > INVLPG_BREAK_EVEN_PAGES.
> > 
> > I think it could be another patch as further step and someone who are
> > very familiar with architecture could do better than.
> > So I hope it could be merged if it doesn't have real big problem.
> > 
> > Thanks for the comment, Alex.
> 
> Just my opinion, but I have to agree with Alex.  Hardcoding
> behavior that is VERY processor-specific is a bad idea.  TLBs should
> only be messed with when absolutely necessary, not for the
> convenience of defending an abstraction that is nice-to-have
> but, in current OS kernel code, unnecessary.

At least put a big fat comment in the patch saying:
"This is based on research done by Alex, where ...


This needs to be redone where it is automatically figured
out based on the CPUID, but ." [include what Dan just
said about breakeven point]


> 
> IIUC, zsmalloc only cares that the breakeven point is greater
> than two.  An arch-specific choice of (A) two page flushes
> vs (B) one all-TLB flush should be all that is necessary right
> now.  (And, per separate discussion, even this isn't really
> necessary either.)
> 
> If zsmalloc _ever_ gets extended to support items that might
> span three or more pages, a more generic TLB flush-pages-vs-flush-all
> approach may be warranted and, by then, may already exist in some
> future kernel.  Until then, IMHO, keep it simple.

Comments are simple :-)

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  reply	other threads:[~2012-06-27 15:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-06-25 16:14 [PATCH 0/3] zsmalloc: remove x86 dependency Seth Jennings
2012-06-25 16:14 ` [PATCH 1/3] zram/zcache: swtich Kconfig dependency from X86 to ZSMALLOC Seth Jennings
2012-06-27  2:37   ` Minchan Kim
2012-06-27  2:43     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2012-06-27  2:49       ` Minchan Kim
2012-06-27  3:21         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2012-06-27 15:40           ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-06-27 18:55             ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2012-06-27 18:52               ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-06-27 19:29                 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2012-06-25 16:14 ` [PATCH 2/3] zsmalloc: add generic path and remove x86 dependency Seth Jennings
2012-06-25 16:59   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2012-06-25 17:10     ` Seth Jennings
2012-06-25 17:19       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2012-06-25 18:24         ` Seth Jennings
2012-06-25 23:37           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2012-06-27  5:28   ` Minchan Kim
2012-06-27 19:09     ` Seth Jennings
2012-06-28  0:20       ` Minchan Kim
2012-06-25 16:14 ` [PATCH 3/3] x86: add local_tlb_flush_kernel_range() Seth Jennings
2012-06-25 23:01   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-06-26 13:39     ` Seth Jennings
2012-06-27  5:53   ` Minchan Kim
2012-06-27  6:14     ` Alex Shi
2012-06-27  6:26       ` Minchan Kim
2012-06-27 15:12         ` Dan Magenheimer
2012-06-27 15:39           ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk [this message]
2012-06-27 18:35             ` Seth Jennings
2012-06-27 18:33           ` Seth Jennings
2012-06-27 21:15             ` Dan Magenheimer
2012-06-27 21:41               ` Seth Jennings
2012-06-28  2:03             ` Alex Shi
2012-06-28 15:21               ` Seth Jennings
2012-06-29  0:19                 ` Alex Shi

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