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From: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
To: Eric B Munson <emunson@mgebm.net>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Linux-Netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux-NFS <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>,
	Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Mike Christie <michaelc@cs.wisc.edu>,
	Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <sebastian@breakpoint.cc>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/12] Swap-over-NFS without deadlocking V8
Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2012 15:35:56 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120702143556.GT14154@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120701172254.GB2470@mgebm.net>

On Sun, Jul 01, 2012 at 01:22:54PM -0400, Eric B Munson wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Jun 2012, Mel Gorman wrote:
> 
> > Changelog since V7
> >   o Rebase to linux-next 20120629
> >   o bi->page_dma instead of bi->page in intel driver
> >   o Build fix for !CONFIG_NET					(sebastian)
> >   o Restore PF_MEMALLOC flags correctly in all cases		(jlayton)
> > 
> > Changelog since V6
> >   o Rebase to linux-next 20120622
> > 
> > Changelog since V5
> >   o Rebase to v3.5-rc3
> > 
> > Changelog since V4
> >   o Catch if SOCK_MEMALLOC flag is cleared with rmem tokens	(davem)
> > 
> > Changelog since V3
> >   o Rebase to 3.4-rc5
> >   o kmap pages for writing to swap				(akpm)
> >   o Move forward declaration to reduce chance of duplication	(akpm)
> > 
> > Changelog since V2
> >   o Nothing significant, just rebases. A radix tree lookup is replaced with
> >     a linear search would be the biggest rebase artifact
> > 
> > This patch series is based on top of "Swap-over-NBD without deadlocking v14"
> > as it depends on the same reservation of PF_MEMALLOC reserves logic.
> > 
> > When a user or administrator requires swap for their application, they
> > create a swap partition and file, format it with mkswap and activate it with
> > swapon. In diskless systems this is not an option so if swap if required
> > then swapping over the network is considered.  The two likely scenarios
> > are when blade servers are used as part of a cluster where the form factor
> > or maintenance costs do not allow the use of disks and thin clients.
> > 
> > The Linux Terminal Server Project recommends the use of the Network
> > Block Device (NBD) for swap but this is not always an option.  There is
> > no guarantee that the network attached storage (NAS) device is running
> > Linux or supports NBD. However, it is likely that it supports NFS so there
> > are users that want support for swapping over NFS despite any performance
> > concern. Some distributions currently carry patches that support swapping
> > over NFS but it would be preferable to support it in the mainline kernel.
> > 
> > Patch 1 avoids a stream-specific deadlock that potentially affects TCP.
> > 
> > Patch 2 is a small modification to SELinux to avoid using PFMEMALLOC
> > 	reserves.
> > 
> > Patch 3 adds three helpers for filesystems to handle swap cache pages.
> > 	For example, page_file_mapping() returns page->mapping for
> > 	file-backed pages and the address_space of the underlying
> > 	swap file for swap cache pages.
> > 
> > Patch 4 adds two address_space_operations to allow a filesystem
> > 	to pin all metadata relevant to a swapfile in memory. Upon
> > 	successful activation, the swapfile is marked SWP_FILE and
> > 	the address space operation ->direct_IO is used for writing
> > 	and ->readpage for reading in swap pages.
> > 
> > Patch 5 notes that patch 3 is bolting
> > 	filesystem-specific-swapfile-support onto the side and that
> > 	the default handlers have different information to what
> > 	is available to the filesystem. This patch refactors the
> > 	code so that there are generic handlers for each of the new
> > 	address_space operations.
> > 
> > Patch 6 adds an API to allow a vector of kernel addresses to be
> > 	translated to struct pages and pinned for IO.
> > 
> > Patch 7 adds support for using highmem pages for swap by kmapping
> > 	the pages before calling the direct_IO handler.
> > 
> > Patch 8 updates NFS to use the helpers from patch 3 where necessary.
> > 
> > Patch 9 avoids setting PF_private on PG_swapcache pages within NFS.
> > 
> > Patch 10 implements the new swapfile-related address_space operations
> > 	for NFS and teaches the direct IO handler how to manage
> > 	kernel addresses.
> > 
> > Patch 11 prevents page allocator recursions in NFS by using GFP_NOIO
> > 	where appropriate.
> > 
> > Patch 12 fixes a NULL pointer dereference that occurs when using
> > 	swap-over-NFS.
> > 
> > With the patches applied, it is possible to mount a swapfile that is on an
> > NFS filesystem. Swap performance is not great with a swap stress test taking
> > roughly twice as long to complete than if the swap device was backed by NBD.
> 
> To test this set I am using memory cgroups to force swap usage.  I am seeing
> the cgroup controller killing my processes instead of using the nfs swapfile.
> 

How sure are you that this is not a cgroup bug? For dirty file data on some
kernels, cgroups can prematurely kill processes if pages are not being
cleaned fast enough. I would not expect the same problem for anonymous
pages but it's worth considering. Please also test with a normal swapfile.

If OOM is disabled and the process hangs, try capturing a sysrq+t and
see where the process is stuck.

-- 
Mel Gorman
SUSE Labs

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  reply	other threads:[~2012-07-02 14:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-06-29 13:33 [PATCH 00/12] Swap-over-NFS without deadlocking V8 Mel Gorman
2012-06-29 13:33 ` [PATCH 01/12] netvm: Prevent a stream-specific deadlock Mel Gorman
2012-06-29 13:33 ` [PATCH 02/12] selinux: tag avc cache alloc as non-critical Mel Gorman
2012-06-29 13:33 ` [PATCH 03/12] mm: Methods for teaching filesystems about PG_swapcache pages Mel Gorman
2012-06-29 13:33 ` [PATCH 04/12] mm: Add support for a filesystem to activate swap files and use direct_IO for writing swap pages Mel Gorman
2012-06-29 13:33 ` [PATCH 05/12] mm: swap: Implement generic handler for swap_activate Mel Gorman
2012-06-29 13:33 ` [PATCH 06/12] mm: Add get_kernel_page[s] for pinning of kernel addresses for I/O Mel Gorman
2012-06-29 13:33 ` [PATCH 07/12] mm: Add support for direct_IO to highmem pages Mel Gorman
2012-06-29 13:33 ` [PATCH 08/12] nfs: teach the NFS client how to treat PG_swapcache pages Mel Gorman
2012-06-29 13:33 ` [PATCH 09/12] nfs: disable data cache revalidation for swapfiles Mel Gorman
2012-06-29 13:33 ` [PATCH 10/12] nfs: enable swap on NFS Mel Gorman
2012-06-29 13:33 ` [PATCH 11/12] nfs: Prevent page allocator recursions with swap over NFS Mel Gorman
2012-06-29 13:33 ` [PATCH 12/12] Avoid dereferencing bd_disk during swap_entry_free for network storage Mel Gorman
2012-07-01 17:22 ` [PATCH 00/12] Swap-over-NFS without deadlocking V8 Eric B Munson
2012-07-02 14:35   ` Mel Gorman [this message]
2012-07-03  0:10     ` Eric B Munson
2012-07-03  8:58       ` Mel Gorman

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