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From: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
To: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <sebastian@breakpoint.cc>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Linux-Netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>, Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Mike Christie <michaelc@cs.wisc.edu>,
	Eric B Munson <emunson@mgebm.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 04/16] mm: allow PF_MEMALLOC from softirq context
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 12:09:32 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120710110932.GC14154@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120709165710.GC3515@breakpoint.cc>

On Mon, Jul 09, 2012 at 06:57:10PM +0200, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 09, 2012 at 11:04:42AM +0100, Mel Gorman wrote:
> > > - lets assume your allocation happens with kmalloc() without __GFP_MEMALLOC
> > >   and current->flags has PF_MEMALLOC ORed and your SLAB pool is empty. This
> > >   forces SLAB to allocate more pages from the buddy allocator with it will
> > >   receive more likely (due to ->current->flags + PF_MEMALLOC) but SLAB will
> > >   drop this extra memory because the page has ->pf_memory (or something like
> > >   that) set and the GFP_FLAGS do not have __GFP_MEMALLOC set.
> > > 
> > 
> > It's recorded if the slab page was allocated from PFMEMALLOC reserves (see
> > patch 2 from the swap over NBD series). slab will use this page for objects
> > but only allocate them to callers that pass a gfp_pfmemalloc_allowed() check.
> > kmalloc() users with either __GFP_MEMALLOC or PF_MEMALLOC will get
> > the pages they need but they will not "leak" to !_GFP_MEMALLOC users as
> > that would potentially deadlock.
> 
> Argh, I missed that gfp_to_alloc_flags() is not only called from
> within the buddy allocater but also from slab. So this is fine then :)
> 

Good to hear. I appreciate you taking the time to give it a solid review
like this looking for holes.

> One thing:
> You only get current->flags |= PF_MEMALLOC in softirq _if_ the skb, which is 
> passed to netif_receive_skb(), was allocated with __GFP_MEMALLOC. That
> means if the NIC's RX allocation did not require an allocation from the
> emergency pool (without ->pfmemalloc set) then you never use this extra
> pool, even if this skb would end up in your swap socket. Also, the other way
> around, where you allocate it from the emergency pool but it is a user
> socket and you could drop it.
> 

While there is a possibility that packets may get dropped later like this,
they still get retransmitted and eventually it'll get through.  This is
not optimal but optimised swap-over-network was not the primary goal of
the series, deadlock avoidance was.

> What about extending sk_set_memalloc() to record socket's ips + ports
> in a separate list so that skb_pfmemalloc_protocol() might use that
> information and decide on per-protocol basis if the skb is worth to
> spend more ressource to deliver it. That means you would enable the
> extra pool if the currently received skb is part of your swap socket and
> not if the skb was allocated from the emergency pool.
> 
> That said, there is nothing wrong with the code as of now and this
> optimization could be added later (if at all).
> 

I think it is a good idea but it could also be done later iff a user had
a serious problem with the performance and that this made a measurable
difference. The series is already quite complex and I'd rather not add to
that complexity without strong motivation.

-- 
Mel Gorman
SUSE Labs

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  reply	other threads:[~2012-07-10 11:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-06-22 14:30 [PATCH 00/17] Swap-over-NBD without deadlocking V13 Mel Gorman
2012-06-22 14:30 ` [PATCH 01/16] mm: sl[au]b: Add knowledge of PFMEMALLOC reserve pages Mel Gorman
2012-06-22 14:30 ` [PATCH 02/16] mm: slub: Optimise the SLUB fast path to avoid pfmemalloc checks Mel Gorman
2012-06-22 14:30 ` [PATCH 03/16] mm: Introduce __GFP_MEMALLOC to allow access to emergency reserves Mel Gorman
2012-06-22 14:30 ` [PATCH 04/16] mm: allow PF_MEMALLOC from softirq context Mel Gorman
2012-06-26 16:55   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2012-06-27  8:26     ` Mel Gorman
2012-07-08 18:12       ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2012-07-09 10:04         ` Mel Gorman
2012-07-09 16:57           ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2012-07-10 11:09             ` Mel Gorman [this message]
2012-06-22 14:30 ` [PATCH 05/16] mm: Only set page->pfmemalloc when ALLOC_NO_WATERMARKS was used Mel Gorman
2012-06-22 14:30 ` [PATCH 06/16] mm: Ignore mempolicies when using ALLOC_NO_WATERMARK Mel Gorman
2012-06-22 14:30 ` [PATCH 07/16] net: Introduce sk_gfp_atomic() to allow addition of GFP flags depending on the individual socket Mel Gorman
2012-06-22 14:30 ` [PATCH 08/16] netvm: Allow the use of __GFP_MEMALLOC by specific sockets Mel Gorman
2012-06-22 14:30 ` [PATCH 09/16] netvm: Allow skb allocation to use PFMEMALLOC reserves Mel Gorman
2012-06-26 15:27   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2012-06-27  8:32     ` Mel Gorman
2012-06-22 14:30 ` [PATCH 10/16] netvm: Propagate page->pfmemalloc to skb Mel Gorman
2012-06-22 14:30 ` [PATCH 11/16] netvm: Propagate page->pfmemalloc from skb_alloc_page " Mel Gorman
2012-06-26 20:13   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2012-06-27  8:43     ` Mel Gorman
2012-07-09 19:18       ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2012-07-10 11:12         ` Mel Gorman
2012-06-22 14:30 ` [PATCH 12/16] netvm: Set PF_MEMALLOC as appropriate during SKB processing Mel Gorman
2012-06-22 14:30 ` [PATCH 13/16] mm: Micro-optimise slab to avoid a function call Mel Gorman
2012-06-22 14:30 ` [PATCH 14/16] nbd: Set SOCK_MEMALLOC for access to PFMEMALLOC reserves Mel Gorman
2012-06-22 14:30 ` [PATCH 15/16] mm: Throttle direct reclaimers if PF_MEMALLOC reserves are low and swap is backed by network storage Mel Gorman
2012-06-22 14:30 ` [PATCH 16/16] mm: Account for the number of times direct reclaimers get throttled Mel Gorman
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2012-06-29 13:32 [PATCH 00/16] Swap-over-NBD without deadlocking V14 Mel Gorman
2012-06-29 13:32 ` [PATCH 04/16] mm: allow PF_MEMALLOC from softirq context Mel Gorman
2012-07-12  6:40 [PATCH 00/16] Swap-over-NBD without deadlocking V15 Mel Gorman
2012-07-12  6:40 ` [PATCH 04/16] mm: allow PF_MEMALLOC from softirq context Mel Gorman

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