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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Rafael Aquini <aquini@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 2/4] virtio_balloon: introduce migration primitives to balloon pages
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 01:48:16 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120814224816.GB29180@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120814213412.GG22133@t510.redhat.com>

On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 06:34:13PM -0300, Rafael Aquini wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 11:49:06PM +0300, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 05:29:50PM -0300, Rafael Aquini wrote:
> > > On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 11:24:01PM +0300, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 05:08:31PM -0300, Rafael Aquini wrote:
> > > > > On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 10:59:16PM +0300, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > > > > > > > What if there is more than one balloon device?
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Is it possible to load this driver twice, or are you foreseeing a future case
> > > > > > > > where this driver will be able to manage several distinct memory balloons for
> > > > > > > > the same guest?
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Second.
> > > > > > > It is easy to create several balloons they are just
> > > > > > > pci devices.
> > > > > >  
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > and it might not be too important to make it work but
> > > > > > at least would be nice not to have a crash in this
> > > > > > setup.
> > > > > >
> > > > > Fair enough. For now, as I believe it's safe to assume we are only inflating one
> > > > > balloon per guest, I'd like to propose this as a future enhancement. Sounds
> > > > > good?
> > > > >  
> > > > 
> > > > Since guest crashes when it's not the case, no it doesn't, sorry :(.
> > > >
> > > Ok, but right now this driver only takes care of 1 balloon per guest,
> > 
> > It does? Are you sure? There is no global state as far as I can see. So
> > I can create 2 devices and driver will happily create two instances,
> > each one can be inflated/deflated independently.
> > 
> > > so how
> > > could this approach crash it? 
> > 
> > Add device. inflate. Add another device. inflate. deflate. unplug.
> > Now you have pointer to freed memory and when mm touches
> > page from first device, you ge use after free.
> > 
> > > Your point is a good thing to be on a to-do list for future enhancements, but
> > > it's not a dealbreaker for the present balloon driver implementation, IMHO.
> > > 
> > 
> > Yes it looks like a dealbreaker to me.
> 
> Sorry. You're right, I'm wrong.
> 
> I'll get back to the scracthpad to overcome this constraint. I believe the way
> this patch was at its v4 revision (wrt this particular case) could possibly
> address this concern of yours.

Almost. We still have a global balloon_mapping. The only reason for
it to exist seems solely to detect balloon mappings, so it
can just be replaced by a flag in the mapping, or in mapping
ops, or elsewhere. Also, please add APIs to mm so we can
avoid doing internal mm stuff like

INIT_RADIX_TREE(&balloon_mapping->page_tree, GFP_ATOMIC | __GFP_NOWARN);

in the driver. It should be
alloc_address_mapping(&virtio_balloon_aops);
free_address_mapping

Make page->mapping use rcu, and sync rcu in
free_address_mapping.

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MST

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  reply	other threads:[~2012-08-14 22:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-08-10 17:55 [PATCH v7 0/4] make balloon pages movable by compaction Rafael Aquini
2012-08-10 17:55 ` [PATCH v7 1/4] mm: introduce compaction and migration for virtio ballooned pages Rafael Aquini
2012-08-12 23:14   ` Minchan Kim
2012-08-13  8:26   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14 17:44     ` Rafael Aquini
2012-08-14 19:35       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14 19:48         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14 20:03           ` Rafael Aquini
2012-08-14 20:00         ` Rafael Aquini
2012-08-14 20:23           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-15  8:52           ` Mel Gorman
2012-08-14 19:52       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-10 17:55 ` [PATCH v7 2/4] virtio_balloon: introduce migration primitives to balloon pages Rafael Aquini
2012-08-13  8:41   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-13 23:59     ` Rusty Russell
2012-08-14  8:33       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14 18:44         ` Rafael Aquini
2012-08-14 19:31           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-15 12:34             ` Rafael Aquini
2012-08-15 14:40               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-20  2:29                 ` Rusty Russell
2012-08-20  5:12                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-15  3:13         ` Rusty Russell
2012-08-14 18:22     ` Rafael Aquini
2012-08-14 19:51       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14 19:59         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14 20:08           ` Rafael Aquini
2012-08-14 20:24             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14 20:29               ` Rafael Aquini
2012-08-14 20:49                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14 20:54                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14 20:56                     ` Rik van Riel
2012-08-14 21:38                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-15 15:30                         ` Rik van Riel
2012-08-14 21:34                   ` Rafael Aquini
2012-08-14 22:48                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2012-08-14 20:11         ` Rafael Aquini
2012-08-14 20:31           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-15  9:05           ` Mel Gorman
2012-08-15  9:25             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-15  9:48               ` Mel Gorman
2012-08-15 10:01                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-15 11:16                   ` Mel Gorman
2012-08-15 11:28                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-21  5:31                       ` Rusty Russell
2012-08-22  0:37                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-10 17:55 ` [PATCH v7 3/4] mm: introduce putback_movable_pages() Rafael Aquini
2012-08-12 23:26   ` Minchan Kim
2012-08-10 17:55 ` [PATCH v7 4/4] mm: add vm event counters for balloon pages compaction Rafael Aquini

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