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From: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
To: Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 18/33] autonuma: teach CFS about autonuma affinity
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 13:54:55 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121005115455.GH6793@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1349419285.6984.98.camel@marge.simpson.net>

On Fri, Oct 05, 2012 at 08:41:25AM +0200, Mike Galbraith wrote:
> On Thu, 2012-10-04 at 01:51 +0200, Andrea Arcangeli wrote: 
> > The CFS scheduler is still in charge of all scheduling decisions. At
> > times, however, AutoNUMA balancing will override them.
> > 
> > Generally, we'll just rely on the CFS scheduler to keep doing its
> > thing, while preferring the task's AutoNUMA affine node when deciding
> > to move a task to a different runqueue or when waking it up.
> 
> Why does AutoNuma fiddle with wakeup decisions _within_ a node?
> 
> pgbench intensely disliked me recently depriving it of migration routes
> in select_idle_sibling(), so AutoNuma saying NAK seems unlikely to make
> it or ilk any happier.

Preferring doesn't mean NAK. It means "search affine first" if there's
not, go the usual route like if autonuma was not there.

Here the code change to the select_idle_sibling() for reference. You
can see it still fallbacks into the first idle_target but it keeps
going and stops when the first NUMA affine idle target is found
according to task_autonuma_cpu().

Notably load and idle balancing decisions are never overridden or
NAKed: only a "preference" is added.

@@ -2658,6 +2662,7 @@ static int select_idle_sibling(struct task_struct *p, int target)
 	/*
 	 * Otherwise, iterate the domains and find an elegible idle cpu.
 	 */
+	idle_target = false;
 	sd = rcu_dereference(per_cpu(sd_llc, target));
 	for_each_lower_domain(sd) {
 		sg = sd->groups;
@@ -2671,9 +2676,18 @@ static int select_idle_sibling(struct task_struct *p, int target)
 					goto next;
 			}
 
-			target = cpumask_first_and(sched_group_cpus(sg),
-					tsk_cpus_allowed(p));
-			goto done;
+			for_each_cpu_and(i, sched_group_cpus(sg),
+					 tsk_cpus_allowed(p)) {
+				/* Find autonuma cpu only in idle group */
+				if (task_autonuma_cpu(p, i)) {
+					target = i;
+					goto done;
+				}
+				if (!idle_target) {
+					idle_target = true;
+					target = i;
+				}
+			}
 next:
 			sg = sg->next;
 		} while (sg != sd->groups);

In short there's no risk of regressions like it happened until 3.6-rc6
(I reverted that patch before it was reverted in 3.6-rc6).

> > For example, idle balancing, while looking into the runqueues of busy
> > CPUs, will first look for a task that "wants" to run on the NUMA node
> > of this idle CPU (one where task_autonuma_cpu() returns true).
> > 
> > Most of this is encoded in can_migrate_task becoming AutoNUMA aware
> > and running two passes for each balancing pass, the first NUMA aware,
> > and the second one relaxed.
> > 
> > Idle or newidle balancing is always allowed to fall back to scheduling
> > non-affine AutoNUMA tasks (ones with task_selected_nid set to another
> > node). Load_balancing, which affects fairness more than performance,
> > is only able to schedule against AutoNUMA affinity if the flag
> > /sys/kernel/mm/autonuma/scheduler/load_balance_strict is not set.
> > 
> > Tasks that haven't been fully profiled yet, are not affected by this
> > because their p->task_autonuma->task_selected_nid is still set to the
> > original value of -1 and task_autonuma_cpu will always return true in
> > that case.
> 
> Hm.  How does this profiling work for 1:N loads?  Once you need two or
> more nodes, there is no best node for the 1, so restricting it can only
> do harm.  For pgbench and ilk, loads of cross node traffic should mean
> the 1 is succeeding at keeping the N busy.

That resembles numa01 on the 8 node system. There are N threads
trashing over all the memory of 4 nodes, and another N threads
trashing over the memory of another 4 nodes. It still work massively
better than no autonuma.

If there are multiple threads their affinity will vary slighly and the
task_selected_nid will distribute (and if it doesn't distribute the
idle load balancing will still work perfectly as upstream).

If there's just one thread, so really 1:N, it doesn't matter in which
CPU of the 4 nodes we put it if it's the memory split is 25/25/25/25.

In short in those 1:N scenarios, it's usually better to just stick to
the last node it run on, and it does with AutoNUMA. This is why it's
better to have 1 task_selected_nid instead of 4. There may be level 3
caches for the node too and that will preserve them too.

See the update of task_selected_nid when no task exchange is done
(even when there are no statistics available yet), and also why I only
updated the below:

-       if (target == cpu && idle_cpu(cpu))
+       if (target == cpu && idle_cpu(cpu) && task_autonuma_cpu(p, cpu))

and not:

	if (target == prev_cpu && idle_cpu(prev_cpu))
		return prev_cpu;

Thanks,
Andrea

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  reply	other threads:[~2012-10-05 11:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 114+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-10-03 23:50 [PATCH 00/33] AutoNUMA27 Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-03 23:50 ` [PATCH 01/33] autonuma: add Documentation/vm/autonuma.txt Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-11 10:50   ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-11 16:07     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-11 19:37       ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-03 23:50 ` [PATCH 02/33] autonuma: make set_pmd_at always available Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-11 10:54   ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-03 23:50 ` [PATCH 03/33] autonuma: export is_vma_temporary_stack() even if CONFIG_TRANSPARENT_HUGEPAGE=n Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-11 10:54   ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-03 23:50 ` [PATCH 04/33] autonuma: define _PAGE_NUMA Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-11 11:01   ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-11 16:43     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-11 19:48       ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-03 23:50 ` [PATCH 05/33] autonuma: pte_numa() and pmd_numa() Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-11 11:15   ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-11 16:58     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-11 19:54       ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-03 23:50 ` [PATCH 06/33] autonuma: teach gup_fast about pmd_numa Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-11 12:22   ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-11 17:05     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-11 20:01       ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-03 23:50 ` [PATCH 07/33] autonuma: mm_autonuma and task_autonuma data structures Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-11 12:28   ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-11 15:24     ` Rik van Riel
2012-10-11 15:57       ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-12  0:23       ` Christoph Lameter
2012-10-12  0:52         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-11 17:15     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-11 20:06       ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-03 23:50 ` [PATCH 08/33] autonuma: define the autonuma flags Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-11 13:46   ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-11 17:34     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-11 20:17       ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-03 23:50 ` [PATCH 09/33] autonuma: core autonuma.h header Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-03 23:50 ` [PATCH 10/33] autonuma: CPU follows memory algorithm Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-11 14:58   ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-12  0:25     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-12  8:29       ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-03 23:50 ` [PATCH 11/33] autonuma: add the autonuma_last_nid in the page structure Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-03 23:50 ` [PATCH 12/33] autonuma: Migrate On Fault per NUMA node data Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-11 15:43   ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-03 23:50 ` [PATCH 13/33] autonuma: autonuma_enter/exit Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-11 13:50   ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-03 23:50 ` [PATCH 14/33] autonuma: call autonuma_setup_new_exec() Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-11 15:47   ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-03 23:50 ` [PATCH 15/33] autonuma: alloc/free/init task_autonuma Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-11 15:53   ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-11 17:34     ` Rik van Riel
     [not found]       ` <20121011175953.GT1818@redhat.com>
2012-10-12 14:03         ` Rik van Riel
2012-10-03 23:50 ` [PATCH 16/33] autonuma: alloc/free/init mm_autonuma Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-03 23:50 ` [PATCH 17/33] autonuma: prevent select_task_rq_fair to return -1 Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-03 23:51 ` [PATCH 18/33] autonuma: teach CFS about autonuma affinity Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-05  6:41   ` Mike Galbraith
2012-10-05 11:54     ` Andrea Arcangeli [this message]
2012-10-06  2:39       ` Mike Galbraith
2012-10-06 12:34         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-07  6:07           ` Mike Galbraith
2012-10-08  7:03             ` Mike Galbraith
2012-10-03 23:51 ` [PATCH 19/33] autonuma: memory follows CPU algorithm and task/mm_autonuma stats collection Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-10 22:01   ` Rik van Riel
2012-10-10 22:36     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-11 18:28   ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-13 18:06   ` Srikar Dronamraju
2012-10-15  8:24     ` Srikar Dronamraju
2012-10-15  9:20       ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-15 10:00         ` Srikar Dronamraju
2012-10-03 23:51 ` [PATCH 20/33] autonuma: default mempolicy follow AutoNUMA Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-04 20:03   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-10-11 18:32   ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-03 23:51 ` [PATCH 21/33] autonuma: call autonuma_split_huge_page() Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-11 18:33   ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-03 23:51 ` [PATCH 22/33] autonuma: make khugepaged pte_numa aware Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-11 18:36   ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-03 23:51 ` [PATCH 23/33] autonuma: retain page last_nid information in khugepaged Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-11 18:44   ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-12 11:37     ` Rik van Riel
2012-10-12 12:35       ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-03 23:51 ` [PATCH 24/33] autonuma: split_huge_page: transfer the NUMA type from the pmd to the pte Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-11 18:45   ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-03 23:51 ` [PATCH 25/33] autonuma: numa hinting page faults entry points Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-11 18:47   ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-03 23:51 ` [PATCH 26/33] autonuma: reset autonuma page data when pages are freed Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-03 23:51 ` [PATCH 27/33] autonuma: link mm/autonuma.o and kernel/sched/numa.o Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-03 23:51 ` [PATCH 28/33] autonuma: add CONFIG_AUTONUMA and CONFIG_AUTONUMA_DEFAULT_ENABLED Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-11 18:50   ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-03 23:51 ` [PATCH 29/33] autonuma: page_autonuma Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-04 14:16   ` Christoph Lameter
2012-10-04 20:09   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-10-05 11:31     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-03 23:51 ` [PATCH 30/33] autonuma: bugcheck page_autonuma fields on newly allocated pages Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-03 23:51 ` [PATCH 31/33] autonuma: boost khugepaged scanning rate Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-03 23:51 ` [PATCH 32/33] autonuma: add migrate_allow_first_fault knob in sysfs Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-03 23:51 ` [PATCH 33/33] autonuma: add mm_autonuma working set estimation Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-04 18:39 ` [PATCH 00/33] AutoNUMA27 Andrew Morton
2012-10-04 20:49   ` Rik van Riel
2012-10-05 23:08   ` Rik van Riel
2012-10-05 23:14   ` Andi Kleen
2012-10-05 23:57     ` Tim Chen
2012-10-06  0:11       ` Andi Kleen
2012-10-08 13:44         ` Don Morris
2012-10-08 20:34     ` Rik van Riel
2012-10-11 10:19 ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-11 14:56   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-11 15:35     ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-12  0:41       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-12 14:54       ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-11 21:34 ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-12  1:45   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-12  8:46     ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-13 18:40 ` Srikar Dronamraju
2012-10-14  4:57   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-15  8:16     ` Srikar Dronamraju
2012-10-23 16:32     ` Srikar Dronamraju
2012-10-16 13:48 ` Mel Gorman

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