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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>
To: Glauber Costa <glommer@parallels.com>
Cc: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>,
	devel@openvz.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 06/14] memcg: kmem controller infrastructure
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 14:51:24 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121022125124.GA8344@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <50853D47.4030409@parallels.com>

[Sorry for the late reply]

On Mon 22-10-12 16:34:15, Glauber Costa wrote:
> On 10/20/2012 12:34 AM, David Rientjes wrote:
> > On Fri, 19 Oct 2012, Glauber Costa wrote:
> > 
> >>>>> What about gfp & __GFP_FS?
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Do you intend to prevent or allow OOM under that flag? I personally
> >>>> think that anything that accepts to be OOM-killed should have GFP_WAIT
> >>>> set, so that ought to be enough.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> The oom killer in the page allocator cannot trigger without __GFP_FS 
> >>> because direct reclaim has little chance of being very successful and 
> >>> thus we end up needlessly killing processes, and that tends to happen 
> >>> quite a bit if we dont check for it.  Seems like this would also happen 
> >>> with memcg if mem_cgroup_reclaim() has a large probability of failing?
> >>>
> >>
> >> I can indeed see tests for GFP_FS in some key locations in mm/ before
> >> calling the OOM Killer.
> >>
> >> Should I test for GFP_IO as well?
> > 
> > It's not really necessary, if __GFP_IO isn't set then it wouldn't make 
> > sense for __GFP_FS to be set.
> > 
> >> If the idea is preventing OOM to
> >> trigger for allocations that can write their pages back, how would you
> >> feel about the following test:
> >>
> >> may_oom = (gfp & GFP_KERNEL) && !(gfp & __GFP_NORETRY) ?
> >>
> > 
> > I would simply copy the logic from the page allocator and only trigger oom 
> > for __GFP_FS and !__GFP_NORETRY.
> > 
> 
> That seems reasonable to me. Michal ?

Yes it makes sense to be consistent with the global case. While we are
at it, do we need to consider PF_DUMPCORE resp. !__GFP_NOFAIL?
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

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  reply	other threads:[~2012-10-22 12:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-10-16 10:16 [PATCH v5 00/14] kmem controller for memcg Glauber Costa
2012-10-16 10:16 ` [PATCH v5 01/14] memcg: Make it possible to use the stock for more than one page Glauber Costa
2012-10-17 22:11   ` Andrew Morton
2012-10-18 16:54     ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-16 10:16 ` [PATCH v5 02/14] memcg: Reclaim when more than one page needed Glauber Costa
2012-10-17 21:46   ` David Rientjes
2012-10-16 10:16 ` [PATCH v5 03/14] memcg: change defines to an enum Glauber Costa
2012-10-17 21:50   ` David Rientjes
2012-10-16 10:16 ` [PATCH v5 04/14] kmem accounting basic infrastructure Glauber Costa
2012-10-16 12:14   ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-17 22:08   ` David Rientjes
2012-10-18 17:01     ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-18 19:47       ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-18 19:37     ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-17 22:12   ` Andrew Morton
2012-10-18 17:03     ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-16 10:16 ` [PATCH v5 05/14] Add a __GFP_KMEMCG flag Glauber Costa
2012-10-16 12:15   ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-17 22:09   ` David Rientjes
2012-10-16 10:16 ` [PATCH v5 06/14] memcg: kmem controller infrastructure Glauber Costa
2012-10-17  6:40   ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-10-17 22:12   ` Andrew Morton
2012-10-18  9:16     ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-18 22:06       ` David Rientjes
2012-10-19  9:10         ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-19  9:31           ` David Rientjes
2012-10-19 10:00             ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-17 22:37   ` David Rientjes
2012-10-18  9:23     ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-18 21:59       ` David Rientjes
2012-10-19 10:08         ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-19 20:34           ` David Rientjes
2012-10-22 12:34             ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-22 12:51               ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2012-10-22 12:52                 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-16 10:16 ` [PATCH v5 07/14] mm: Allocate kernel pages to the right memcg Glauber Costa
2012-10-16 15:31   ` Christoph Lameter
2012-10-16 18:55     ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-17 22:12   ` Andrew Morton
2012-10-18  9:24     ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-18 20:44       ` Andrew Morton
2012-10-18 11:53     ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-17 22:43   ` David Rientjes
2012-10-16 10:16 ` [PATCH v5 08/14] res_counter: return amount of charges after res_counter_uncharge Glauber Costa
2012-10-17 23:23   ` David Rientjes
2012-10-16 10:16 ` [PATCH v5 09/14] memcg: kmem accounting lifecycle management Glauber Costa
2012-10-17 23:28   ` David Rientjes
2012-10-18  6:14     ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-18  9:42     ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-16 10:16 ` [PATCH v5 10/14] memcg: use static branches when code not in use Glauber Costa
2012-10-16 10:16 ` [PATCH v5 11/14] memcg: allow a memcg with kmem charges to be destructed Glauber Costa
2012-10-17 22:12   ` Andrew Morton
2012-10-18  9:33     ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-16 10:16 ` [PATCH v5 12/14] execute the whole memcg freeing in free_worker Glauber Costa
2012-10-17  6:56   ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-10-16 10:16 ` [PATCH v5 13/14] protect architectures where THREAD_SIZE >= PAGE_SIZE against fork bombs Glauber Costa
2012-10-17 22:12   ` Andrew Morton
2012-10-18  9:37     ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-16 10:16 ` [PATCH v5 14/14] Add documentation about the kmem controller Glauber Costa
2012-10-16 12:23   ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-16 18:25   ` Christoph Lameter
2012-10-16 18:55     ` Aristeu Rozanski
2012-10-16 19:02     ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-16 19:30       ` Christoph Lameter
2012-10-17 22:12   ` Andrew Morton
2012-10-18  9:38     ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-17 22:11 ` [PATCH v5 00/14] kmem controller for memcg Andrew Morton
2012-10-18 16:51   ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-18 19:21     ` Andrew Morton
2012-10-19  9:55       ` Glauber Costa

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