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From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
To: Sasha Levin <levinsasha928@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 06/16] tracepoint: use new hashtable implementation
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 15:16:59 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121029191659.GB21864@Krystal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+1xoqcSx04JEXy2aPu4Qt7Zb4iSqXBSjARgMae_FusgzpgnaQ@mail.gmail.com>

* Sasha Levin (levinsasha928@gmail.com) wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 2:53 PM, Mathieu Desnoyers
> <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com> wrote:
> > * Sasha Levin (levinsasha928@gmail.com) wrote:
> >> On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 2:31 PM, Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org> wrote:
> >> > On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 01:29:24PM -0400, Sasha Levin wrote:
> >> >> On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 7:35 AM, Mathieu Desnoyers
> >> >> <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com> wrote:
> >> >> > * Sasha Levin (levinsasha928@gmail.com) wrote:
> >> >> >> Switch tracepoints to use the new hashtable implementation. This reduces the amount of
> >> >> >> generic unrelated code in the tracepoints.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Signed-off-by: Sasha Levin <levinsasha928@gmail.com>
> >> >> >> ---
> >> >> >>  kernel/tracepoint.c | 27 +++++++++++----------------
> >> >> >>  1 file changed, 11 insertions(+), 16 deletions(-)
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> diff --git a/kernel/tracepoint.c b/kernel/tracepoint.c
> >> >> >> index d96ba22..854df92 100644
> >> >> >> --- a/kernel/tracepoint.c
> >> >> >> +++ b/kernel/tracepoint.c
> >> >> >> @@ -26,6 +26,7 @@
> >> >> >>  #include <linux/slab.h>
> >> >> >>  #include <linux/sched.h>
> >> >> >>  #include <linux/static_key.h>
> >> >> >> +#include <linux/hashtable.h>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>  extern struct tracepoint * const __start___tracepoints_ptrs[];
> >> >> >>  extern struct tracepoint * const __stop___tracepoints_ptrs[];
> >> >> >> @@ -49,8 +50,7 @@ static LIST_HEAD(tracepoint_module_list);
> >> >> >>   * Protected by tracepoints_mutex.
> >> >> >>   */
> >> >> >>  #define TRACEPOINT_HASH_BITS 6
> >> >> >> -#define TRACEPOINT_TABLE_SIZE (1 << TRACEPOINT_HASH_BITS)
> >> >> >> -static struct hlist_head tracepoint_table[TRACEPOINT_TABLE_SIZE];
> >> >> >> +static DEFINE_HASHTABLE(tracepoint_table, TRACEPOINT_HASH_BITS);
> >> >> >>
> >> >> > [...]
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> @@ -722,6 +715,8 @@ struct notifier_block tracepoint_module_nb = {
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>  static int init_tracepoints(void)
> >> >> >>  {
> >> >> >> +     hash_init(tracepoint_table);
> >> >> >> +
> >> >> >>       return register_module_notifier(&tracepoint_module_nb);
> >> >> >>  }
> >> >> >>  __initcall(init_tracepoints);
> >> >> >
> >> >> > So we have a hash table defined in .bss (therefore entirely initialized
> >> >> > to NULL), and you add a call to "hash_init", which iterates on the whole
> >> >> > array and initialize it to NULL (again) ?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > This extra initialization is redundant. I think it should be removed
> >> >> > from here, and hashtable.h should document that hash_init() don't need
> >> >> > to be called on zeroed memory (which includes static/global variables,
> >> >> > kzalloc'd memory, etc).
> >> >>
> >> >> This was discussed in the previous series, the conclusion was to call
> >> >> hash_init() either way to keep the encapsulation and consistency.
> >> >>
> >> >> It's cheap enough and happens only once, so why not?
> >> >
> >> > Unnecessary work adds up.  Better not to do it unnecessarily, even if by
> >> > itself it doesn't cost that much.
> >> >
> >> > It doesn't seem that difficult for future fields to have 0 as their
> >> > initialized state.
> >>
> >> Let's put it this way: hlist requires the user to initialize hlist
> >> head before usage, therefore as a hlist user, hashtable implementation
> >> must do that.
> >>
> >> We do it automatically when the hashtable user does
> >> DEFINE_HASHTABLE(), but we can't do that if he does
> >> DECLARE_HASHTABLE(). This means that the hashtable user must call
> >> hash_init() whenever he uses DECLARE_HASHTABLE() to create his
> >> hashtable.
> >>
> >> There are two options here, either we specify that hash_init() should
> >> only be called if DECLARE_HASHTABLE() was called, which is confusing,
> >> inconsistent and prone to errors, or we can just say that it should be
> >> called whenever a hashtable is used.
> >>
> >> The only way to work around it IMO is to get hlist to not require
> >> initializing before usage, and there are good reasons that that won't
> >> happen.
> >
> > Hrm, just a second here.
> >
> > The argument about hash_init being useful to add magic values in the
> > future only works for the cases where a hash table is declared with
> > DECLARE_HASHTABLE(). It's completely pointless with DEFINE_HASHTABLE(),
> > because we could initialize any debugging variables from within
> > DEFINE_HASHTABLE().
> >
> > So I take my "Agreed" back. I disagree with initializing the hash table
> > twice redundantly. There should be at least "DEFINE_HASHTABLE()" or a
> > hash_init() (for DECLARE_HASHTABLE()), but not useless execution
> > initialization on top of an already statically initialized hash table.
> 
> The "magic values" argument was used to point out that some sort of
> initialization *must* occur, either by hash_init() or by a proper
> initialization in DEFINE_HASHTABLE(), and we can't simply memset() it
> to 0. It appears that we all agree on that.

Yes.

> The other thing is whether hash_init() should be called for hashtables
> that were created with DEFINE_HASHTABLE(). That point was raised by
> Neil Brown last time this series went around, and it seems that no one
> objected to the point that it should be consistent across the code.

I was probably busy in the San Diego area at that time, or preparing for
it, sorry! :)

> 
> Even if we ignore hash_init() being mostly optimized out, is it really
> worth it taking the risk that some future patch would move a hashtable
> that user DEFINE_HASHTABLE() into a struct and will start using
> DECLARE_HASHTABLE() and forgetting to initialize it, for example?

There is a saying that with "if"s, we could put Paris in a bottle. ;)

Please have a look at "linux/wait.h", where if a wait queue is defined
with DEFINE_*(), there is just no need to initialize it at runtime.
There are plenty other kernel headers that do the same. I don't see why
hashtable.h should be different.

Thanks,

Mathieu

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-10-29 19:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-10-28 19:02 [PATCH v7 01/16] hashtable: introduce a small and naive hashtable Sasha Levin
2012-10-28 19:02 ` [PATCH v7 02/16] userns: use new hashtable implementation Sasha Levin
2012-10-28 19:02 ` [PATCH v7 03/16] mm,ksm: " Sasha Levin
2012-10-28 19:02 ` [PATCH v7 04/16] workqueue: " Sasha Levin
2012-10-29  1:25   ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-28 19:02 ` [PATCH v7 05/16] mm/huge_memory: " Sasha Levin
2012-10-28 19:02 ` [PATCH v7 06/16] tracepoint: " Sasha Levin
2012-10-29 11:35   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 17:29     ` Sasha Levin
2012-10-29 17:50       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 18:31       ` Josh Triplett
2012-10-29 18:42         ` Sasha Levin
2012-10-29 18:53           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 18:58             ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-29 19:01               ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-29 19:10                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 19:09             ` Sasha Levin
2012-10-29 19:12               ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-29 19:17                 ` Sasha Levin
2012-10-29 19:16               ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2012-10-28 19:02 ` [PATCH v7 07/16] net,9p: " Sasha Levin
2012-10-29 12:15   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-28 19:02 ` [PATCH v7 08/16] block,elevator: " Sasha Levin
2012-10-29  1:29   ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-29 12:20   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-28 19:02 ` [PATCH v7 09/16] SUNRPC/cache: " Sasha Levin
2012-10-29 12:42   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 14:49     ` Linus Torvalds
2012-10-29 15:13       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 15:16         ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-10-29 15:41           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 16:27       ` Andrew Morton
2012-10-28 19:02 ` [PATCH v7 10/16] dlm: " Sasha Levin
2012-10-29 12:46   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 13:07     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 15:53       ` Sasha Levin
2012-10-29 16:07         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 16:23           ` David Teigland
2012-10-28 19:02 ` [PATCH v7 11/16] net,l2tp: " Sasha Levin
2012-10-29 13:04   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-28 19:02 ` [PATCH v7 12/16] dm: " Sasha Levin
2012-10-28 19:02 ` [PATCH v7 13/16] lockd: " Sasha Levin
2012-10-29 13:23   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-28 19:02 ` [PATCH v7 14/16] net,rds: " Sasha Levin
2012-10-29 13:25   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-28 19:02 ` [PATCH v7 15/16] openvswitch: " Sasha Levin
2012-10-29 13:29   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 15:43     ` Sasha Levin
2012-10-29 15:59       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 17:35         ` Sasha Levin
2012-10-29 18:16           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 18:22             ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-29 18:35               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-28 19:02 ` [PATCH v7 16/16] tracing output: " Sasha Levin
2012-10-29 11:29 ` [PATCH v7 01/16] hashtable: introduce a small and naive hashtable Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 16:06   ` Sasha Levin
2012-10-29 16:14     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 16:18       ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-29 16:22         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-10-29 16:26       ` Sasha Levin
2012-10-29 16:29         ` Mathieu Desnoyers

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