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From: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/31] numa/core patches
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 16:59:01 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121030165901.GF3888@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121030082810.b9576441.akpm@linux-foundation.org>

On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 08:28:10AM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 30 Oct 2012 12:20:32 +0000 Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de> wrote:
> 
> > ...
> 
> Useful testing - thanks.  Did I miss the description of what
> autonumabench actually does?  How representitive is it of real-world
> things?
> 

It's not representative of anything at all. It's a synthetic benchmark
that just measures if automatic NUMA migration (whatever the mechanism)
is working as expected. I'm not aware of a decent description of what
the test does and why. Here is my current interpretation and hopefully
Andrea will correct me if I'm wrong.

NUMA01
  Two processes
  NUM_CPUS/2 number of threads so all CPUs are in use
  
  On startup, the process forks
  Each process mallocs a 3G buffer but there is no communication
      between the processes.
  Threads are created that zeros out the full buffer 1000 times

  The objective of the test is that initially the two processes
  allocate their memory on the same node. As the threads are
  are created the memory will migrate from the initial node to
  nodes that are closer to the referencing thread.

  It is worth noting that this benchmark is specifically tuned
  for two nodes and the expectation is that the two processes
  and their threads split so that all process A runs on node 0
  and all threads on process B run in node 1

  With 4 and more nodes, this is actually an adverse workload.
  As all the buffer is zeroed in both processes, there is an
  expectation that it will continually bounce between two nodes.

  So, on 2 nodes, this benchmark tests convergence. On 4 or more
  nodes, this partially measures how much busy work automatic
  NUMA migrate does and it'll be very noisy due to cache conflicts.

NUMA01_THREADLOCAL
  Two processes
  NUM_CPUS/2 number of threads so all CPUs are in use

  On startup, the process forks
  Each process mallocs a 3G buffer but there is no communication
      between the processes
  Threads are created that zero out their own subset of the buffer.
      Each buffer is 3G/NR_THREADS in size
  
  This benchmark is more realistic. In an ideal situation, each
  thread will migrate its data to its local node. The test really
  is to see does it converge and how quickly.

NUMA02
 One process, NR_CPU threads

 On startup, malloc a 1G buffer
 Create threads that zero out a thread-local portion of the buffer.
      Zeros multiple times - the number of times is fixed and seems
      to just be to take a period of time

 This is similar in principal to NUMA01_THREADLOCAL except that only
 one process is involved. I think it was aimed at being more JVM-like.

NUMA02_SMT
 One process, NR_CPU/2 threads

 This is a variation of NUMA02 except that with half the cores idle it
 is checking if the system migrates the memory to two or more nodes or
 if it tries to fit everything in one node even though the memory should
 migrate to be close to the CPU

> > I also expect autonuma is continually scanning where as schednuma is
> > reacting to some other external event or at least less frequently scanning.
> 
> Might this imply that autonuma is consuming more CPU in kernel threads,
> the cost of which didn't get included in these results?

It might but according to top, knuma_scand only used 7.86 seconds of CPU
time during the whole test and the time used by the migration tests is
also very low. Most migration threads used less than 1 second of CPU
time. Two migration threads used 2 seconds of CPU time each but that
still seems low.

-- 
Mel Gorman
SUSE Labs

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  reply	other threads:[~2012-10-30 16:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 135+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-10-25 12:16 [PATCH 00/31] numa/core patches Peter Zijlstra
2012-10-25 12:16 ` [PATCH 01/31] sched, numa, mm: Make find_busiest_queue() a method Peter Zijlstra
2012-10-25 12:16 ` [PATCH 02/31] sched, numa, mm: Describe the NUMA scheduling problem formally Peter Zijlstra
2012-11-01  9:56   ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-01 13:13     ` Rik van Riel
2012-10-25 12:16 ` [PATCH 03/31] mm/thp: Preserve pgprot across huge page split Peter Zijlstra
2012-11-01 10:22   ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-25 12:16 ` [PATCH 04/31] x86/mm: Introduce pte_accessible() Peter Zijlstra
2012-10-25 20:10   ` Linus Torvalds
2012-10-26  6:24     ` [PATCH 04/31, v2] " Ingo Molnar
2012-11-01 10:42   ` [PATCH 04/31] " Mel Gorman
2012-10-25 12:16 ` [PATCH 05/31] x86/mm: Reduce tlb flushes from ptep_set_access_flags() Peter Zijlstra
2012-10-25 20:17   ` Linus Torvalds
2012-10-26  2:30     ` Rik van Riel
2012-10-26  2:56       ` Linus Torvalds
2012-10-26  3:57         ` Rik van Riel
2012-10-26  4:23           ` Linus Torvalds
2012-10-26  6:42             ` Ingo Molnar
2012-10-26 12:34             ` Michel Lespinasse
2012-10-26 12:48               ` Andi Kleen
2012-10-26 13:16                 ` Rik van Riel
2012-10-26 13:26                   ` Ingo Molnar
2012-10-26 13:28                     ` Ingo Molnar
2012-10-26 18:44                     ` [PATCH 1/3] x86/mm: only do a local TLB flush in ptep_set_access_flags() Rik van Riel
2012-10-26 18:49                       ` Linus Torvalds
2012-10-26 19:16                         ` Rik van Riel
2012-10-26 19:18                           ` Linus Torvalds
2012-10-26 19:21                             ` Rik van Riel
2012-10-29 15:23                             ` Rik van Riel
2012-12-21  9:57                               ` trailing flush_tlb_fix_spurious_fault in handle_pte_fault (was Re: [PATCH 1/3] x86/mm: only do a local TLB flush in ptep_set_access_flags()) Vineet Gupta
2012-10-26 18:45                     ` [PATCH 2/3] x86,mm: drop TLB flush from ptep_set_access_flags Rik van Riel
2012-10-26 21:12                       ` Alan Cox
2012-10-27  3:49                         ` Rik van Riel
2012-10-27 10:29                           ` Ingo Molnar
2012-10-27 13:40                         ` Rik van Riel
2012-10-29 16:57                           ` Borislav Petkov
2012-10-29 17:06                             ` Linus Torvalds
2012-11-17 14:50                               ` Borislav Petkov
2012-11-17 14:56                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-11-17 15:17                                   ` Borislav Petkov
2012-11-17 15:24                                   ` Rik van Riel
2012-11-17 21:53                                     ` Shentino
2012-11-18 15:29                                       ` Michel Lespinasse
2012-10-26 18:46                     ` [PATCH 3/3] mm,generic: only flush the local TLB in ptep_set_access_flags Rik van Riel
2012-10-26 18:48                       ` Linus Torvalds
2012-10-26 18:53                         ` Linus Torvalds
2012-10-26 18:57                         ` Rik van Riel
2012-10-26 19:16                           ` Linus Torvalds
2012-10-26 19:33                             ` [PATCH -v2 " Rik van Riel
2012-10-26 13:23                 ` [PATCH 05/31] x86/mm: Reduce tlb flushes from ptep_set_access_flags() Michel Lespinasse
2012-10-26 17:01               ` Linus Torvalds
2012-10-26 17:54                 ` Rik van Riel
2012-10-26 18:02                   ` Linus Torvalds
2012-10-26 18:14                     ` Rik van Riel
2012-10-26 18:41                       ` Linus Torvalds
2012-10-25 12:16 ` [PATCH 06/31] mm: Only flush the TLB when clearing an accessible pte Peter Zijlstra
2012-10-25 12:16 ` [PATCH 07/31] sched, numa, mm, s390/thp: Implement pmd_pgprot() for s390 Peter Zijlstra
2012-11-01 10:49   ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-25 12:16 ` [PATCH 08/31] sched, numa, mm, MIPS/thp: Add pmd_pgprot() implementation Peter Zijlstra
2012-10-25 12:16 ` [PATCH 09/31] mm/pgprot: Move the pgprot_modify() fallback definition to mm.h Peter Zijlstra
2012-10-25 12:16 ` [PATCH 10/31] mm/mpol: Remove NUMA_INTERLEAVE_HIT Peter Zijlstra
2012-10-25 20:58   ` Andi Kleen
2012-10-26  7:59     ` Ingo Molnar
2012-10-25 12:16 ` [PATCH 11/31] mm/mpol: Make MPOL_LOCAL a real policy Peter Zijlstra
2012-11-01 10:58   ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-25 12:16 ` [PATCH 12/31] mm/mpol: Add MPOL_MF_NOOP Peter Zijlstra
2012-11-01 11:10   ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-25 12:16 ` [PATCH 13/31] mm/mpol: Check for misplaced page Peter Zijlstra
2012-10-25 12:16 ` [PATCH 14/31] mm/mpol: Create special PROT_NONE infrastructure Peter Zijlstra
2012-11-01 11:51   ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-25 12:16 ` [PATCH 15/31] mm/mpol: Add MPOL_MF_LAZY Peter Zijlstra
2012-11-01 12:01   ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-25 12:16 ` [PATCH 16/31] numa, mm: Support NUMA hinting page faults from gup/gup_fast Peter Zijlstra
2012-10-25 12:16 ` [PATCH 17/31] mm/migrate: Introduce migrate_misplaced_page() Peter Zijlstra
2012-11-01 12:20   ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-25 12:16 ` [PATCH 18/31] mm/mpol: Use special PROT_NONE to migrate pages Peter Zijlstra
2012-10-25 12:16 ` [PATCH 19/31] sched, numa, mm: Introduce tsk_home_node() Peter Zijlstra
2012-11-01 13:48   ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-25 12:16 ` [PATCH 20/31] sched, numa, mm/mpol: Make mempolicy home-node aware Peter Zijlstra
2012-11-01 13:58   ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-01 14:10     ` Don Morris
2012-10-25 12:16 ` [PATCH 21/31] sched, numa, mm: Introduce sched_feat_numa() Peter Zijlstra
2012-11-01 14:00   ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-25 12:16 ` [PATCH 22/31] sched, numa, mm: Implement THP migration Peter Zijlstra
2012-11-01 14:16   ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-25 12:16 ` [PATCH 23/31] sched, numa, mm: Implement home-node awareness Peter Zijlstra
2012-11-01 15:06   ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-25 12:16 ` [PATCH 24/31] sched, numa, mm: Introduce last_nid in the pageframe Peter Zijlstra
2012-11-01 15:17   ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-25 12:16 ` [PATCH 25/31] sched, numa, mm/mpol: Add_MPOL_F_HOME Peter Zijlstra
2012-10-25 12:16 ` [PATCH 26/31] sched, numa, mm: Add fault driven placement and migration policy Peter Zijlstra
2012-10-25 20:53   ` Linus Torvalds
2012-10-26  7:15     ` Ingo Molnar
2012-10-26 13:50       ` Ingo Molnar
2012-10-26 14:11         ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-10-26 14:14           ` Ingo Molnar
2012-10-26 16:47             ` Linus Torvalds
2012-10-30 19:23   ` Rik van Riel
2012-11-01 15:40   ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-25 12:16 ` [PATCH 27/31] sched, numa, mm: Add credits for NUMA placement Peter Zijlstra
2012-10-25 12:16 ` [PATCH 28/31] sched, numa, mm: Implement constant, per task Working Set Sampling (WSS) rate Peter Zijlstra
2012-11-01 15:48   ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-25 12:16 ` [PATCH 29/31] sched, numa, mm: Add NUMA_MIGRATION feature flag Peter Zijlstra
2012-10-25 12:16 ` [PATCH 30/31] sched, numa, mm: Implement slow start for working set sampling Peter Zijlstra
2012-11-01 15:52   ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-25 12:16 ` [PATCH 31/31] sched, numa, mm: Add memcg support to do_huge_pmd_numa_page() Peter Zijlstra
2012-10-26  9:07 ` [PATCH 00/31] numa/core patches Zhouping Liu
2012-10-26  9:08   ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-10-26  9:20     ` Ingo Molnar
2012-10-26  9:41       ` Zhouping Liu
2012-10-26 10:20       ` Zhouping Liu
2012-10-26 10:24         ` Ingo Molnar
2012-10-28 17:56     ` Johannes Weiner
2012-10-29  2:44       ` Zhouping Liu
2012-10-29  6:50         ` [PATCH] sched, numa, mm: Add memcg support to do_huge_pmd_numa_page() Ingo Molnar
2012-10-29  8:24           ` Johannes Weiner
2012-10-29  8:36             ` Zhouping Liu
2012-10-29 11:15             ` Ingo Molnar
2012-10-30  6:29       ` [PATCH 00/31] numa/core patches Zhouping Liu
2012-10-31  0:48         ` Johannes Weiner
2012-10-31  7:26           ` Hugh Dickins
2012-10-31 13:15             ` Zhouping Liu
2012-10-31 17:31               ` Hugh Dickins
2012-11-01 13:41                 ` Hugh Dickins
2012-11-02  3:23                   ` Zhouping Liu
2012-11-02 23:06                     ` Hugh Dickins
2012-10-30 12:20 ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-30 15:28   ` Andrew Morton
2012-10-30 16:59     ` Mel Gorman [this message]
2012-11-03 11:04   ` Alex Shi
2012-11-03 12:21     ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-10  2:47       ` Alex Shi
2012-11-12  9:50         ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-09  8:51   ` Rik van Riel
2012-11-05 17:11 ` Srikar Dronamraju

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