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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Tejun Heo <htejun@gmail.com>,
	Glauber Costa <glommer@parallels.com>,
	Li Zefan <lizefan@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH -repost] memcg,vmscan: do not break out targeted reclaim without reclaimed pages
Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2013 12:24:04 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130103122404.033eeb20.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130103180901.GA22067@dhcp22.suse.cz>

On Thu, 3 Jan 2013 19:09:01 +0100
Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz> wrote:

> Hi,
> I have posted this quite some time ago
> (https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/12/14/102) but it probably slipped through
> ---
> >From 28b4e10bc3c18b82bee695b76f4bf25c03baa5f8 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
> From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>
> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 11:12:43 +0100
> Subject: [PATCH] memcg,vmscan: do not break out targeted reclaim without
>  reclaimed pages
> 
> Targeted (hard resp. soft) reclaim has traditionally tried to scan one
> group with decreasing priority until nr_to_reclaim (SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX
> pages) is reclaimed or all priorities are exhausted. The reclaim is
> then retried until the limit is met.
> 
> This approach, however, doesn't work well with deeper hierarchies where
> groups higher in the hierarchy do not have any or only very few pages
> (this usually happens if those groups do not have any tasks and they
> have only re-parented pages after some of their children is removed).
> Those groups are reclaimed with decreasing priority pointlessly as there
> is nothing to reclaim from them.
> 
> An easiest fix is to break out of the memcg iteration loop in shrink_zone
> only if the whole hierarchy has been visited or sufficient pages have
> been reclaimed. This is also more natural because the reclaimer expects
> that the hierarchy under the given root is reclaimed. As a result we can
> simplify the soft limit reclaim which does its own iteration.
> 
> Reported-by: Ying Han <yinghan@google.com>

But what was in that report?

My guess would be "excessive CPU consumption", and perhaps "excessive
reclaim in the higher-level memcgs".

IOW, what are the user-visible effects of this change?

(And congrats - you're the first person I've sent that sentence to this
year!  But not, I fear, the last)


I don't really understand what prevents limit reclaim from stealing
lots of pages from the top-level groups.  How do we ensure
balancing/fairness in this case?


> --- a/mm/vmscan.c
> +++ b/mm/vmscan.c
> @@ -1973,18 +1973,17 @@ static void shrink_zone(struct zone *zone, struct scan_control *sc)

shrink_zone() might be getting a bit bloaty for CONFIG_MEMCG=n kernels.

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  reply	other threads:[~2013-01-03 20:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-01-03 18:09 [PATCH -repost] memcg,vmscan: do not break out targeted reclaim without reclaimed pages Michal Hocko
2013-01-03 20:24 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2013-01-04 14:52   ` Michal Hocko
2013-01-29  8:51 ` [PATCH] mmotm: memcgvmscan-do-not-break-out-targeted-reclaim-without-reclaimed-pages.patch fix Michal Hocko
2013-01-30 16:22   ` Johannes Weiner
2013-01-30 16:37     ` Michal Hocko

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