From: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Dan Magenheimer <dan.magenheimer@oracle.com>,
Sonny Rao <sonnyrao@google.com>, Bryan Freed <bfreed@google.com>,
Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] mm: prevent to add a page to swap if may_writepage is unset
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 10:52:22 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130121015222.GA3666@blaptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130117233641.GA31368@blaptop>
Hi,
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 08:36:42AM +0900, Minchan Kim wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 02:22:38PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > On Thu, 17 Jan 2013 09:53:14 +0900
> > Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Recently, Luigi reported there are lots of free swap space when
> > > OOM happens. It's easily reproduced on zram-over-swap, where
> > > many instance of memory hogs are running and laptop_mode is enabled.
> > > He said there was no problem when he disabled laptop_mode.
> > >
> > > The problem when I investigate problem is following as.
> > >
> > > Assumption for easy explanation: There are no page cache page in system
> > > because they all are already reclaimed.
> > >
> > > 1. try_to_free_pages disable may_writepage when laptop_mode is enabled.
> > > 2. shrink_inactive_list isolates victim pages from inactive anon lru list.
> > > 3. shrink_page_list adds them to swapcache via add_to_swap but it doesn't
> > > pageout because sc->may_writepage is 0 so the page is rotated back into
> > > inactive anon lru list. The add_to_swap made the page Dirty by SetPageDirty
> > > 4. 3 couldn't reclaim any pages so do_try_to_free_pages increase priority and
> > > retry reclaim with higher priority.
> > > 5. shrink_inactlive_list try to isolate victim pages from inactive anon lru list
> > > but got failed because it try to isolate pages with ISOLATE_CLEAN mode but
> > > inactive anon lru list is full of dirty pages by 3 so it just returns
> > > without any reclaim progress.
> > > 6. do_try_to_free_pages doesn't set may_write due to zero total_scanned.
> >
> > s/may_write/may_writepage/
>
> Thanks!
>
> >
> > > Because sc->nr_scanned is increased by shrink_page_list but we don't call
> > > shrink_page_list in 5 due to short of isolated pages.
> >
> > This is the bug, is it not?
> >
> > In laptop mode, we still need to write out dirty swapcache at some
> > point. An appropriate time to do this is when the scanning priority is
>
> Yes and when to some point is really important. Now, the point for that is
> depends on on the number of scanned pages by shrink_page_list. It means we
> must isolate victim pages from inactive LRU list and call shrink_page_list
> to increase sc->nr_scanned but unfortunately, we have various filters to
> decrease CPU consumption and LRU churning when VM try to isolate victim pages
> so it could prevent isolating victim pages from LRU list.
>
> > getting high. But it seems that this ISOLATE_CLEAN->total_scanned
>
> Yes. I absolutely agree on that some point should depend on priority, NOT
> the number of scanned pages. And I already said to you about that.
> https://lkml.org/lkml/2013/1/10/643
>
> We used to use such heuristic in several places in VM, ie DEF_PRIORITY - 2
> But why I hesitate with the patch is that I think this patch should go to
> stable tree so the patch should be really small and have no side effect so
> I don't wanted to change laptop_mode behavior heavily caused by changing
> condition for may_writepage trigger point.
>
> > interaction is preventing that.
> >
> > (An enhancement to laptop mode would be to opportunistically write out
> > dirty swapcache in or around laptop_mode_timer_fn()).
>
> It could but it should be another patch and VM shouldn't rely on ONLY
> laptop_mode_timer_fn, IMHO. VM should have own rule to reclaim pages
> regardless of laptop_mode's help to prevent OOM kill.
>
> >
> > > Above loop is continued until OOM happens.
> > > The problem didn't happen before [1] was merged because old logic's isolatation
> > > in shrink_inactive_list was successful and tried to call shrink_page_list
> > > to pageout them but it still ends up failed to page out by may_writepage.
> > > But important point is that sc->nr_scanned was increased althoug we couldn't
> > > swap out them so do_try_to_free_pages could set may_writepages.
> > > So this patch need to go stable tree althoug it's a band-aid.
> > > Then, for latest linus tree, we should fix laptop_mode's fundamental
> > > problem.
> >
> > Well. Perhaps we can do that now.
>
> Okay. If you don't object my suggestion, I will send patches next week.
> Thanks for the review, Andrew!
Andrew, If nobody objects, I would like to drop [1] and add ths patch instead of [1].
Luigi, below patch passed my test. If anybody doesn't object, could you test this
patch?
Thanks!
[1] mm: prevent addition of pages to swap if may_writepage is unset
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-01-21 1:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-01-09 6:21 [PATCH 0/2] Use up free swap space before reaching OOM kill Minchan Kim
2013-01-09 6:21 ` [PATCH 1/2] mm: prevent to add a page to swap if may_writepage is unset Minchan Kim
2013-01-09 6:56 ` Johannes Weiner
2013-01-09 7:10 ` Minchan Kim
2013-01-10 0:18 ` Andrew Morton
2013-01-10 2:03 ` Minchan Kim
2013-01-10 23:24 ` Luigi Semenzato
2013-01-10 23:27 ` Luigi Semenzato
2013-01-11 4:03 ` Minchan Kim
2013-01-10 0:20 ` Andrew Morton
2013-01-16 21:41 ` Andrew Morton
2013-01-17 0:53 ` Minchan Kim
2013-01-17 22:22 ` Andrew Morton
2013-01-17 23:36 ` Minchan Kim
2013-01-21 1:52 ` Minchan Kim [this message]
2013-01-21 14:39 ` Rik van Riel
2013-01-22 0:09 ` Minchan Kim
2013-02-05 1:43 ` Minchan Kim
2013-01-09 6:21 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm: forcely swapout when we are out of page cache Minchan Kim
2013-01-10 0:26 ` Andrew Morton
2013-01-10 2:23 ` Minchan Kim
2013-01-10 21:58 ` Andrew Morton
2013-01-11 4:43 ` Minchan Kim
2013-01-16 0:09 ` Andrew Morton
2013-01-16 0:32 ` Sonny Rao
2013-01-16 0:50 ` Andrew Morton
2013-01-16 1:21 ` Sonny Rao
2013-01-16 4:47 ` Minchan Kim
2013-01-16 20:08 ` Sonny Rao
2013-01-16 4:43 ` Minchan Kim
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