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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>
To: Glauber Costa <glommer@parallels.com>
Cc: cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 4/6] memcg: replace cgroup_lock with memcg specific memcg_lock
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 16:20:32 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130121152032.GP7798@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <50FD5AC0.9020406@parallels.com>

On Mon 21-01-13 19:12:00, Glauber Costa wrote:
> On 01/21/2013 06:49 PM, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > On Mon 21-01-13 15:13:31, Glauber Costa wrote:
> >> After the preparation work done in earlier patches, the cgroup_lock can
> >> be trivially replaced with a memcg-specific lock. This is an automatic
> >> translation in every site the values involved were queried.
> >>
> >> The sites were values are written, however, used to be naturally called
> >> under cgroup_lock. This is the case for instance of the css_online
> >> callback. For those, we now need to explicitly add the memcg_lock.
> >>
> >> Also, now that the memcg_mutex is available, there is no need to abuse
> >> the set_limit mutex in kmemcg value setting. The memcg_mutex will do a
> >> better job, and we now resort to it.
> > 
> > You will hate me for this because I should have said that in the
> > previous round already (but I will use "I shown a mercy on you and
> > that blinded me" for my defense).
> > I am not so sure it will do a better job (it is only kmem that uses both
> > locks). I thought that memcg_mutex is just a first step and that we move
> > to a more finer grained locking later (a too general documentation of
> > the lock even asks for it).  So I would keep the limit mutex and figure
> > whether memcg_mutex could be split up even further.
> > 
> > Other than that the patch looks good to me
> > 
> By now I have more than enough reasons to hate you, so this one won't
> add much. Even then, don't worry. Beer resets it all.
> 
> That said, I disagree with you.
> 
> As you noted yourself, kmem needs both locks:
> 1) cgroup_lock, because we need to prevent creation of sub-groups.
> 2) set_limit lock, because we need one - any one - memcg global lock be
> held while we are manipulating the kmem-specific data structures, and we
> would like to spread cgroup_lock all around for that.
> 
> I now regret not having created the memcg_mutex for that: I'd be now
> just extending it to other users, instead of trying a replacement.
> 
> So first of all, if the limit mutex is kept, we would *still* need to
> hold the memcg mutex to avoid children appearing. If we *ever* switch to
> a finer-grained lock(*), we will have to hold that lock anyway. So why
> hold set_limit_mutex??

Yeah but memcg is not just kmem, is it? See mem_cgroup_resize_limit for
example. Why should it be linearized with, say, a new group creation.
Same thing with memsw. Besides that you know what those two locks are
intended for. memcg_mutex to prevent from races with a new group
creation and the limit lock for races with what-ever limit setting.
This sounds much more specific than
"
The memcg mutex needs to be held for any globally visible cgroup change.
"

> (*) None of the operations protected by this mutex are fast paths...
[...]
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

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  reply	other threads:[~2013-01-21 15:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-01-21 11:13 [PATCH v3 0/6] replace cgroup_lock with memcg specific locking Glauber Costa
2013-01-21 11:13 ` [PATCH v3 1/6] memcg: prevent changes to move_charge_at_immigrate during task attach Glauber Costa
2013-01-21 11:13 ` [PATCH v3 2/6] memcg: split part of memcg creation to css_online Glauber Costa
2013-01-21 13:56   ` Michal Hocko
2013-01-21 11:13 ` [PATCH v3 3/6] memcg: fast hierarchy-aware child test Glauber Costa
2013-01-21 14:10   ` Michal Hocko
2013-01-21 11:13 ` [PATCH v3 4/6] memcg: replace cgroup_lock with memcg specific memcg_lock Glauber Costa
2013-01-21 14:49   ` Michal Hocko
2013-01-21 15:12     ` Glauber Costa
2013-01-21 15:20       ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2013-01-21 15:34         ` Glauber Costa
2013-01-21 16:07           ` Michal Hocko
2013-01-21 16:12             ` Glauber Costa
2013-01-21 16:33               ` Michal Hocko
2013-01-21 17:37                 ` Michal Hocko
2013-01-21 11:13 ` [PATCH v3 5/6] memcg: increment static branch right after limit set Glauber Costa
2013-01-21 11:13 ` [PATCH v3 6/6] memcg: avoid dangling reference count in creation failure Glauber Costa
2013-01-21 12:30   ` Michal Hocko
2013-01-21 13:08     ` Glauber Costa
2013-01-21 13:19       ` Michal Hocko
2013-01-21 13:26         ` Glauber Costa

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