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From: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
To: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
Cc: Nitin Gupta <ngupta@vflare.org>,
	Dan Magenheimer <dan.magenheimer@oracle.com>,
	Seth Jennings <sjenning@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad@darnok.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: Questin about swap_slot free and invalidate page
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2013 11:49:50 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130204024950.GD2688@blaptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LNX.2.00.1302031732520.4050@eggly.anvils>

Hi Hugh,

On Sun, Feb 03, 2013 at 05:51:14PM -0800, Hugh Dickins wrote:
> On Thu, 31 Jan 2013, Minchan Kim wrote:
> 
> > When I reviewed zswap, I was curious about frontswap_store.
> > It said following as.
> > 
> >  * If frontswap already contains a page with matching swaptype and
> >  * offset, the frontswap implementation may either overwrite the data and
> >  * return success or invalidate the page from frontswap and return failure.
> > 
> > It didn't say why it happens. we already have __frontswap_invalidate_page
> > and call it whenever swap_slot frees. If we don't free swap slot,
> > scan_swap_map can't find the slot for swap out so I thought overwriting of
> > data shouldn't happen in frontswap.
> > 
> > As I looked the code, the curplit is reuse_swap_page. It couldn't free swap
> > slot if the page founded is PG_writeback but miss calling frontswap_invalidate_page
> > so data overwriting on frontswap can happen. I'm not sure frontswap guys
> > already discussed it long time ago.
> > 
> > If we can fix it, we can remove duplication entry handling logic
> > in all of backend of frontswap. All of backend should handle it although
> > it's pretty rare. Of course, zram could be fixed. It might be trivial now
> > but more there are many backend of frontswap, more it would be a headache.
> > 
> > If we are trying to fix it in swap layer,  we might fix it following as
> > 
> > int reuse_swap_page(struct page *page)
> > {
> >         ..
> >         ..
> >         if (count == 1) {
> >                 if (!PageWriteback(page)) {
> >                         delete_from_swap_cache(page);
> >                         SetPageDirty(page);
> >                 } else {
> >                         frontswap_invalidate_page();
> >                         swap_slot_free_notify();
> >                 }
> >         }
> > }
> > 
> > But not sure, it is worth at the moment and there might be other places
> > to be fixed.(I hope Hugh can point out if we are missing something if he
> > has a time)
> 
> I expect you are right that reuse_swap_page() is the only way it would
> happen for frontswap; but I'm too unfamiliar with frontswap to promise
> you that - it's better that you insert WARN_ONs in your testing to verify.
> 
> But I think it's a general tmem property, isn't it?  To define what
> happens if you do give it the same key again.  So I doubt it's something

I am too unfamiliar with tmem property but thing I am seeing is
EXPORT_SYMBOL(__frontswap_store). It's a one of frontend and is tighly very
coupled with swap subsystem.

> that has to be fixed; but if you do find it helpful to fix it, bear in
> mind that reuse_swap_page() is an odd corner, which may one day give the
> "stable pages" DIF/DIX people trouble, though they've not yet complained.
> 
> I'd prefer a patch not specific to frontswap, but along the lines below:
> I think that's the most robust way to express it, though I don't think
> the (count == 0) case can actually occur inside that block (whereas
> count == 0 certainly can occur in the !PageSwapCache case).
> 
> I believe that I once upon a time took statistics of how often the
> PageWriteback case happens here, and concluded that it wasn't often
> enough that refusing to reuse in this case would be likely to slow
> anyone down noticeably.

I agree. I had a test about that with zram and that case wasn't common.
so your patch looks good to me.

I am waiting Dan's reply(He will come in this week) and then, judge what's
the best.

Thanks!

> 
> > 
> > If we are reluctant to it, at least, we should write out comment above
> > frontswap_store about that to notice curious guys who spend many
> > time to know WHY and smart guys who are going to fix it with nice way.
> > 
> > Mr. Frontswap, What do you think about it?
> 
> He's not me of course :)
> 
> Hugh
> 
> --- 3.8-rc6/mm/swapfile.c	2012-12-22 09:43:27.668015583 -0800
> +++ linux/mm/swapfile.c	2013-02-03 17:31:04.148181857 -0800
> @@ -637,8 +637,11 @@ int reuse_swap_page(struct page *page)
>  		return 0;
>  	count = page_mapcount(page);
>  	if (count <= 1 && PageSwapCache(page)) {
> -		count += page_swapcount(page);
> -		if (count == 1 && !PageWriteback(page)) {
> +		if (PageWriteback(page))
> +			count = 2;	/* not safe yet to free its swap */
> +		else
> +			count += page_swapcount(page);
> +		if (count <= 1) {
>  			delete_from_swap_cache(page);
>  			SetPageDirty(page);
>  		}
> 
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  reply	other threads:[~2013-02-04  2:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-01-31  5:11 Questin about swap_slot free and invalidate page Minchan Kim
2013-02-04  1:51 ` Hugh Dickins
2013-02-04  2:49   ` Minchan Kim [this message]
2013-02-04 21:28     ` Dan Magenheimer
2013-02-05  1:24       ` Minchan Kim
2013-02-19 12:12       ` Ric Mason
2013-02-19 15:27         ` Dan Magenheimer
2013-02-20  2:03           ` Ric Mason
2013-02-21 21:42             ` Dan Magenheimer
2013-02-22  3:13               ` Ric Mason
2013-02-25 17:20                 ` Dan Magenheimer

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