From: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
To: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Cc: Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>, Jiri Slaby <jslaby@suse.cz>,
Valdis Kletnieks <Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
Zlatko Calusic <zcalusic@bitsync.net>,
dormando <dormando@rydia.net>,
Satoru Moriya <satoru.moriya@hds.com>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 02/10] mm: vmscan: Obey proportional scanning requirements for kswapd
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 18:02:38 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130321180238.GM1878@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130321162518.GB27848@cmpxchg.org>
On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 12:25:18PM -0400, Johannes Weiner wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 01:04:08PM +0000, Mel Gorman wrote:
> > Simplistically, the anon and file LRU lists are scanned proportionally
> > depending on the value of vm.swappiness although there are other factors
> > taken into account by get_scan_count(). The patch "mm: vmscan: Limit
> > the number of pages kswapd reclaims" limits the number of pages kswapd
> > reclaims but it breaks this proportional scanning and may evenly shrink
> > anon/file LRUs regardless of vm.swappiness.
> >
> > This patch preserves the proportional scanning and reclaim. It does mean
> > that kswapd will reclaim more than requested but the number of pages will
> > be related to the high watermark.
>
> Swappiness is about page types, but this implementation compares all
> LRUs against each other, and I'm not convinced that this makes sense
> as there is no guaranteed balance between the inactive and active
> lists. For example, the active file LRU could get knocked out when
> it's almost empty while the inactive file LRU has more easy cache than
> the anon lists combined.
>
Ok, I see your point. I think Michal was making the same point but I
failed to understand it the first time around.
> Would it be better to compare the sum of file pages with the sum of
> anon pages and then knock out the smaller pair?
Yes, it makes more sense but the issue then becomes how can we do that
sensibly, The following is straight-forward and roughly in line with your
suggestion but it does not preseve the scanning ratio between active and
inactive of the remaining LRU lists.
/*
* For kswapd and memcg, reclaim at least the number of pages
* requested. Ensure that the anon and file LRUs shrink
* proportionally what was requested by get_scan_count(). We
* stop reclaiming one LRU and reduce the amount scanning
* required on the other.
*/
nr_file = nr[LRU_INACTIVE_FILE] + nr[LRU_ACTIVE_FILE];
nr_anon = nr[LRU_INACTIVE_ANON] + nr[LRU_ACTIVE_ANON];
if (nr_file > nr_anon) {
nr[LRU_INACTIVE_FILE] -= min(nr_anon, nr[LRU_INACTIVE_FILE]);
nr[LRU_ACTIVE_FILE] -= min(nr_anon, nr[LRU_ACTIVE_FILE]);
nr[LRU_INACTIVE_ANON] = nr[LRU_ACTIVE_ANON] = 0;
} else {
nr[LRU_INACTIVE_ANON] -= min(nr_file, nr[LRU_INACTIVE_ANON]);
nr[LRU_ACTIVE_ANON] -= min(nr_file, nr[LRU_ACTIVE_ANON]);
nr[LRU_INACTIVE_FILE] = nr[LRU_ACTIVE_FILE] = 0;
}
scan_adjusted = true;
Preserving the ratio gets complicated and to avoid excessive branching,
it ends up looking like the following untested code.
/*
* For kswapd and memcg, reclaim at least the number of pages
* requested. Ensure that the anon and file LRUs shrink
* proportionally what was requested by get_scan_count(). We
* stop reclaiming one LRU and reduce the amount scanning
* required on the other preserving the ratio between the
* active/inactive lists.
*
* Start by preparing to shrink the larger of the LRUs by
* the size of the smaller list.
*/
nr_file = nr[LRU_INACTIVE_FILE] + nr[LRU_ACTIVE_FILE];
nr_anon = nr[LRU_INACTIVE_ANON] + nr[LRU_ACTIVE_ANON];
nr_shrink = (nr_file > nr_anon) ? nr_anon : nr_file;
lru = (nr_file > nr_anon) ? LRU_FILE : 0;
/* Work out the ratio of the inactive/active list */
top = min(nr[LRU_ACTIVE + lru], nr[lru]);
bottom = max(nr[LRU_ACTIVE + lru], nr[lru]);
percentage = top * 100 / bottom;
nr_fraction = nr_shrink * percentage / 100;
nr_remaining = nr_anon - nr_fraction;
/* Reduce the remaining pages to scan proportionally */
if (nr[LRU_ACTIVE + lru] > nr[lru]) {
nr[LRU_ACTIVE + lru] -= min(nr_remaining, nr[LRU_ACTIVE + lru]);
nr[lru] -= min(nr_fraction, nr[lru]);
} else {
nr[LRU_ACTIVE + lru] -= min(nr_fraction, nr[LRU_ACTIVE + lru]);
nr[lru] -= min(nr_remaining, nr[lru]);
}
/* Stop scanning the smaller LRU */
lru = (lru == LRU_FILE) ? LRU_BASE : LRU_FILE;
nr[LRU_ACTIVE + lru] = 0;
nr[lru] = 0;
Is this what you had in mind or had you something simplier in mind?
--
Mel Gorman
SUSE Labs
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-03-21 18:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 140+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-03-17 13:04 [RFC PATCH 0/8] Reduce system disruption due to kswapd Mel Gorman
2013-03-17 13:04 ` [PATCH 01/10] mm: vmscan: Limit the number of pages kswapd reclaims at each priority Mel Gorman
2013-03-18 23:53 ` Simon Jeons
2013-03-19 9:55 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-19 10:16 ` Simon Jeons
2013-03-19 10:59 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-20 16:18 ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-21 0:52 ` Rik van Riel
2013-03-22 0:08 ` Will Huck
2013-03-21 9:47 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-21 12:59 ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-21 0:51 ` Rik van Riel
2013-03-21 15:57 ` Johannes Weiner
2013-03-21 16:47 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-22 0:05 ` Will Huck
2013-03-22 3:52 ` Rik van Riel
2013-03-22 3:56 ` Will Huck
2013-03-22 4:59 ` Will Huck
2013-03-22 13:01 ` Rik van Riel
2013-04-05 0:05 ` Will Huck
2013-04-07 7:32 ` Will Huck
2013-04-07 7:35 ` Will Huck
2013-04-11 5:54 ` Will Huck
2013-04-11 5:58 ` Will Huck
2013-04-12 5:46 ` Ric Mason
2013-04-12 9:34 ` Mel Gorman
2013-04-12 13:40 ` Rik van Riel
2013-03-25 9:07 ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-25 9:13 ` Jiri Slaby
2013-03-28 22:31 ` Jiri Slaby
2013-03-29 8:22 ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-30 22:07 ` Jiri Slaby
2013-04-02 11:15 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-17 13:04 ` [PATCH 02/10] mm: vmscan: Obey proportional scanning requirements for kswapd Mel Gorman
2013-03-17 14:39 ` Andi Kleen
2013-03-17 15:08 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-21 1:10 ` Rik van Riel
2013-03-21 9:54 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-21 14:01 ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-21 14:31 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-21 15:07 ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-21 15:34 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-22 7:54 ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-22 8:37 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-22 10:04 ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-22 10:47 ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-21 16:25 ` Johannes Weiner
2013-03-21 18:02 ` Mel Gorman [this message]
2013-03-22 16:53 ` Johannes Weiner
2013-03-22 18:25 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-22 19:09 ` Johannes Weiner
2013-03-22 19:46 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-17 13:04 ` [PATCH 03/10] mm: vmscan: Flatten kswapd priority loop Mel Gorman
2013-03-17 14:36 ` Andi Kleen
2013-03-17 15:09 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-18 7:02 ` Hillf Danton
2013-03-19 10:01 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-18 23:58 ` Simon Jeons
2013-03-19 10:12 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-19 3:08 ` Simon Jeons
2013-03-19 8:23 ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-19 10:14 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-19 10:26 ` Simon Jeons
2013-03-19 11:01 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-21 14:54 ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-21 15:26 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-21 15:38 ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-17 13:04 ` [PATCH 04/10] mm: vmscan: Decide whether to compact the pgdat based on reclaim progress Mel Gorman
2013-03-18 11:11 ` Wanpeng Li
2013-03-18 11:11 ` Wanpeng Li
2013-03-19 10:19 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-18 11:35 ` Hillf Danton
2013-03-19 10:27 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-21 15:32 ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-21 15:47 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-21 15:50 ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-17 13:04 ` [PATCH 05/10] mm: vmscan: Do not allow kswapd to scan at maximum priority Mel Gorman
2013-03-21 1:20 ` Rik van Riel
2013-03-21 10:12 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-21 12:30 ` Rik van Riel
2013-03-21 15:48 ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-17 13:04 ` [PATCH 06/10] mm: vmscan: Have kswapd writeback pages based on dirty pages encountered, not priority Mel Gorman
2013-03-17 14:42 ` Andi Kleen
2013-03-17 15:11 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-21 17:53 ` Rik van Riel
2013-03-21 18:15 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-21 18:21 ` Rik van Riel
2013-03-18 11:08 ` Wanpeng Li
2013-03-19 10:35 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-18 11:08 ` Wanpeng Li
2013-03-17 13:04 ` [PATCH 07/10] mm: vmscan: Block kswapd if it is encountering pages under writeback Mel Gorman
2013-03-17 14:49 ` Andi Kleen
2013-03-17 15:19 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-17 15:40 ` Andi Kleen
2013-03-19 11:06 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-18 11:37 ` Simon Jeons
2013-03-19 10:57 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-18 11:58 ` Wanpeng Li
2013-03-18 11:58 ` Wanpeng Li
2013-03-19 10:58 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-21 16:32 ` [PATCH 07/10 -v2r1] " Michal Hocko
2013-03-21 18:42 ` [PATCH 07/10] " Rik van Riel
2013-03-22 8:27 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-17 13:04 ` [PATCH 08/10] mm: vmscan: Have kswapd shrink slab only once per priority Mel Gorman
2013-03-17 14:53 ` Andi Kleen
2013-03-21 16:47 ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-21 19:47 ` Rik van Riel
2013-04-09 6:53 ` Joonsoo Kim
2013-04-09 8:41 ` Simon Jeons
2013-04-09 11:13 ` Mel Gorman
2013-04-10 1:07 ` Dave Chinner
2013-04-10 5:23 ` Joonsoo Kim
2013-04-11 9:53 ` Mel Gorman
2013-04-10 5:21 ` Joonsoo Kim
2013-04-11 10:01 ` Mel Gorman
2013-04-11 10:29 ` Ric Mason
2013-03-17 13:04 ` [PATCH 09/10] mm: vmscan: Check if kswapd should writepage " Mel Gorman
2013-03-21 16:58 ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-21 18:07 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-21 19:52 ` Rik van Riel
2013-03-17 13:04 ` [PATCH 10/10] mm: vmscan: Move logic from balance_pgdat() to kswapd_shrink_zone() Mel Gorman
2013-03-17 14:55 ` Andi Kleen
2013-03-17 15:25 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-21 17:18 ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-21 18:13 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-21 10:44 ` [RFC PATCH 0/8] Reduce system disruption due to kswapd Damien Wyart
2013-03-21 10:54 ` Zlatko Calusic
2013-03-21 11:48 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-21 11:20 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-22 14:37 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-24 19:00 ` Jiri Slaby
2013-03-25 8:17 ` Michal Hocko
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2013-04-09 11:06 [PATCH 0/10] Reduce system disruption due to kswapd V2 Mel Gorman
2013-04-09 11:06 ` [PATCH 02/10] mm: vmscan: Obey proportional scanning requirements for kswapd Mel Gorman
2013-04-10 7:16 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2013-04-10 14:08 ` Mel Gorman
2013-04-11 0:14 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2013-04-11 9:09 ` Mel Gorman
2013-04-11 19:57 [PATCH 0/10] Reduce system disruption due to kswapd V3 Mel Gorman
2013-04-11 19:57 ` [PATCH 02/10] mm: vmscan: Obey proportional scanning requirements for kswapd Mel Gorman
2013-04-18 15:01 ` Johannes Weiner
2013-04-18 15:58 ` Mel Gorman
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