From: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
To: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Cc: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
Jan Stancek <jstancek@redhat.com>,
Paul McKenney <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Ian Lance Taylor <iant@google.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: prevent mmap_cache race in find_vma()
Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2013 00:58:14 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130403045814.GD4611@cmpxchg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.02.1304022122030.32184@chino.kir.corp.google.com>
On Tue, Apr 02, 2013 at 09:25:40PM -0700, David Rientjes wrote:
> On Wed, 3 Apr 2013, Johannes Weiner wrote:
>
> > The definition of ACCESS_ONCE() relies on gcc's current
> > implementation, the users of ACCESS_ONCE() only rely on ACCESS_ONCE()
> > being defined.
> >
> > Should it ever break you have to either fix it at the implementation
> > level or remove/replace the abstraction in its entirety, how does the
> > individual callsite matter in this case?
> >
>
> As stated, it doesn't. I made the comment "for what it's worth" that
> ACCESS_ONCE() doesn't do anything to "prevent the compiler from
> re-fetching" as the changelog insists it does.
That's exactly what it does:
/*
* Prevent the compiler from merging or refetching accesses.
This is the guarantee ACCESS_ONCE() gives, users should absolutely be
allowed to rely on this literal definition. The underlying gcc
implementation does not matter one bit. That's the whole point of
abstraction!
> I'd much rather it refer to gcc's implementation, which we're
> counting on here,
No, we really don't. There is no
"(*(volatile typeof(x)*)&(x))"
anywhere in this patch.
> to avoid any confusion since I know a couple people have thought
> that ACCESS_ONCE() forces the compiler to load memory onto the stack
> and that belief is completely and utterly wrong.
Maybe "forces the compiler to load memory onto the stack" should be
removed from the documentation of ACCESS_ONCE() then?
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-04-03 4:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-04-02 21:59 [PATCH] mm: prevent mmap_cache race in find_vma() Jan Stancek
2013-04-02 22:33 ` David Rientjes
2013-04-02 23:09 ` Hugh Dickins
2013-04-02 23:55 ` David Rientjes
2013-04-03 3:19 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-04-03 4:21 ` David Rientjes
2013-04-03 16:38 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-04-03 4:14 ` Johannes Weiner
2013-04-03 4:25 ` David Rientjes
2013-04-03 4:58 ` Johannes Weiner [this message]
2013-04-03 5:13 ` David Rientjes
2013-04-03 13:45 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2013-04-03 14:33 ` Johannes Weiner
2013-04-03 23:59 ` David Rientjes
2013-04-04 0:00 ` [patch] compiler: clarify ACCESS_ONCE() relies on compiler implementation David Rientjes
2013-04-04 0:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-04-04 1:52 ` David Rientjes
2013-04-04 2:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-04-04 2:18 ` David Rientjes
2013-04-04 2:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-04-04 6:02 ` David Rientjes
2013-04-04 14:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-04-04 19:40 ` David Rientjes
2013-04-04 19:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-04-04 20:02 ` David Rientjes
2013-04-03 16:33 ` [PATCH] mm: prevent mmap_cache race in find_vma() Paul E. McKenney
2013-04-03 16:41 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-04-03 17:47 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2013-04-03 22:11 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-04-03 22:28 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2013-04-12 18:05 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-04-03 9:37 ` Jakub Jelinek
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2013-04-04 18:35 Hugh Dickins
2013-04-04 18:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-04-04 19:01 ` Hugh Dickins
2013-04-04 19:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-04-04 22:30 ` Paul E. McKenney
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