From: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
To: Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
Sangseok Lee <sangseok.lee@lge.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC 1/4] mm: Per process reclaim
Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2013 08:46:44 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130403234644.GC7675@blaptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHO5Pa0srsWS6ukpxUo=EqCOxRmYa7c_7PDg1YPh7gcMGWPpaw@mail.gmail.com>
On Wed, Apr 03, 2013 at 12:10:22PM +0200, Michael Kerrisk wrote:
> Hello Minchan,
>
> On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 7:21 AM, Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org> wrote:
> > These day, there are many platforms avaiable in the embedded market
> > and they are smarter than kernel which has very limited information
> > about working set so they want to involve memory management more heavily
> > like android's lowmemory killer and ashmem or recent many lowmemory
> > notifier(there was several trial for various company NOKIA, SAMSUNG,
> > Linaro, Google ChromeOS, Redhat).
> >
> > One of the simple imagine scenario about userspace's intelligence is that
> > platform can manage tasks as forground and backgroud so it would be
> > better to reclaim background's task pages for end-user's *responsibility*
> > although it has frequent referenced pages.
> >
> > This patch adds new knob "reclaim under proc/<pid>/" so task manager
> > can reclaim any target process anytime, anywhere. It could give another
> > method to platform for using memory efficiently.
> >
> > It can avoid process killing for getting free memory, which was really
> > terrible experience because I lost my best score of game I had ever
> > after I switch the phone call while I enjoyed the game.
> >
> > Writing 1 to /proc/pid/reclaim reclaims only file pages.
> > Writing 2 to /proc/pid/reclaim reclaims only anonymous pages.
> > Writing 3 to /proc/pid/reclaim reclaims all pages from target process.
>
> This interface seems to work as advertized, at least from some light
> testing that I've done.
Thanks for the testing!
>
> However, the interface is a quite blunt instrument. Would there be any
> virtue in extending it so that an address range could be written to
> /proc/PID/reclaim? Used in conjunction with /proc/PID/maps, a manager
> process might then choose to trigger reclaim of just selected regions
> of a processes address space. Thus, one might reclaim file backed
> pages in a range using:
>
> echo '2 start-address end-address' > /proc/PID/reclaim
>
> What do you think?
It is really nice idea because some platform use a address space with
mulitple object. Simply, multiple application could work in a address space
but they use separate virtual address range in a address space.
In such model, per-process reclaim isn't vaild any more so your idea
would be nice for it.
One nitpick is that I'd like to use (address, size) instead of (start_address
, end_address) because we always confuse that end_address itself is
inclusive or not in the range.
And I am thinking another options like this
RECLAIM_SOFT_[FILE|ANON]
It reclaims pages which are not workset.
RECLAIM_HARD_[FILE|ANON]
It reclaims pages of range unconditionally although pages are shared by
several processes.
But before that, I'd like to hear other guys's opinion.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Michael
>
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prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-04-03 23:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-03-25 6:21 [RFC 1/4] mm: Per process reclaim Minchan Kim
2013-03-25 6:21 ` [RFC 2/4] mm: make shrink_page_list with pages from multiple zones Minchan Kim
2013-03-25 6:21 ` [RFC 3/4] mm: Remove shrink_page Minchan Kim
2013-03-25 6:21 ` [RFC 4/4] mm: Enhance per process reclaim Minchan Kim
2013-04-02 13:25 ` Michael Kerrisk
2013-04-03 0:23 ` Minchan Kim
2013-04-03 6:16 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2013-04-03 6:47 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2013-04-03 9:17 ` [RFC 1/4] mm: Per " Michael Kerrisk
2013-04-03 23:31 ` Minchan Kim
2013-04-03 10:10 ` Michael Kerrisk
2013-04-03 10:12 ` Michael Kerrisk
2013-04-03 23:46 ` Minchan Kim [this message]
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