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From: Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Bernd Schubert <bernd.schubert@fastmail.fm>,
	Alexey Lyahkov <alexey.lyashkov@gmail.com>,
	Will Huck <will.huckk@gmail.com>,
	Andrew Perepechko <anserper@ya.ru>,
	linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, mgorman@suse.de
Subject: Re: page eviction from the buddy cache
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 10:26:50 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130424142650.GA29097@thunk.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130423150008.046ee9351da4681128db0bf3@linux-foundation.org>

On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 03:00:08PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> That should fix things for now.  Although it might be better to just do
> 
>  	mark_page_accessed(page);	/* to SetPageReferenced */
>  	lru_add_drain();		/* to SetPageLRU */
> 
> Because a) this was too early to decide that the page is
> super-important and b) the second touch of this page should have a
> mark_page_accessed() in it already.

The question is do we really want to put lru_add_drain() into the ext4
file system code?  That seems to pushing some fairly mm-specific
knowledge into file system code.  I'll do this if I have to do, but
wouldn't be better if this was pushed into mark_page_accessed(), or
some other new API was exported by the mm subsystem?

> At present the code decides up-front which LRU the lru_add_pvecs page
> will eventually be spilled onto.  That's a bit strange and I wonder why
> we did it that way.  Why not just have a single (per-cpu) magazine of
> pages which are to go onto the LRUs, and decide *which* LRU that will
> be at the last possible moment?

And this is why it seems strange that fs code should need or should
want to put something as mm-implementation dependent into their code
paths.  At minimum, if we do this, we'll want to put some explanatory
comments so that later, people won't be asking, what the !@#@?!? are
the ext4 people calling lru_add_drain() here?

							- Ted

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-04-24 14:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <51504A40.6020604@ya.ru>
     [not found] ` <20130327150743.GC14900@thunk.org>
2013-03-27 19:24   ` page eviction from the buddy cache Hugh Dickins
2013-03-28  5:34     ` Alexey Lyahkov
2013-04-04  1:24       ` Will Huck
2013-04-04  4:51         ` Alexey Lyahkov
2013-04-20 21:18           ` Bernd Schubert
2013-04-20 23:57             ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-04-22 12:14               ` Alexey Lyahkov
2013-04-23 12:02               ` Bernd Schubert
2013-04-23 12:27                 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-04-23 19:57                   ` Hugh Dickins
2013-04-23 22:00                     ` Andrew Morton
2013-04-23 22:31                       ` Hugh Dickins
2013-04-24 14:26                       ` Theodore Ts'o [this message]
2013-04-24 21:41                         ` Andrew Morton
2013-04-25  8:18                           ` Alexey Lyahkov
2013-04-25 14:30                         ` Mel Gorman
2013-04-25 18:37                           ` Alexey Lyahkov
2013-04-25 22:40                             ` Mel Gorman
2013-04-26  6:03                               ` Alexey Lyahkov
2013-04-22 12:18             ` Alexey Lyahkov

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