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From: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
To: Glauber Costa <glommer@parallels.com>
Cc: Glauber Costa <glommer@openvz.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>,
	kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com, Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Dave Chinner <dchinner@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 06/31] mm: new shrinker API
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 16:32:18 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130430153218.GC11497@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <517FDD29.7000600@parallels.com>

On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 07:03:05PM +0400, Glauber Costa wrote:
> On 04/30/2013 06:40 PM, Mel Gorman wrote:
> > On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 03:19:02AM +0400, Glauber Costa wrote:
> >> From: Dave Chinner <dchinner@redhat.com>
> >>
> >> The current shrinker callout API uses an a single shrinker call for
> >> multiple functions. To determine the function, a special magical
> >> value is passed in a parameter to change the behaviour. This
> >> complicates the implementation and return value specification for
> >> the different behaviours.
> >>
> >> Separate the two different behaviours into separate operations, one
> >> to return a count of freeable objects in the cache, and another to
> >> scan a certain number of objects in the cache for freeing. In
> >> defining these new operations, ensure the return values and
> >> resultant behaviours are clearly defined and documented.
> >>
> >> Modify shrink_slab() to use the new API and implement the callouts
> >> for all the existing shrinkers.
> >>
> >> Signed-off-by: Dave Chinner <dchinner@redhat.com>
> > 
> > Glauber's signed-off appears to be missing.
> > 
> I didn't sign all patches, just the ones I have changed.
> Should I sign them all ?
> 

Yes because you are on the submission path and form part of the chain of
trust. Andrew does not change every patch he signs off, neither does Greg
(-stable) or Linus (mainline).

> > 
> > As unreasonable as it is, it means that this API can no longer can handle
> > more than "long" objects. While we'd never hit the limit in practice
> > unless shrinkers are insane or the objects represent something that is
> > not stored in memory, it still looks odd to allow an API to potentially
> > say it has a negative number of objects and as as far as I can gather,
> > it's just so the shrinkers can return -1.
> > 
> > Why not leave this as unsigned long and return SHRINK_UNCOUNTABLE
> > count_objects if the number of freeable items cannot be determined and
> > SHRINK_UNFREEABLE if scan_objects cannot free without risk of deadlock.
> > Underneath, SHRINK_* would be defined as ULONG_MAX.
> > 
>
> I believe you have already saw the reason for that in the following patch.
> 

Yes, although it was to match existing behaviour, not because it was
necessarily a good idea.

> Do you still have a problem with this ?
> 

Not enough to NAK it but it would be desirable because it does feel strange
to have the API deal with negative numbers of objects just to have -1.

> > 
> >> diff --git a/mm/vmscan.c b/mm/vmscan.c
> >> index f9d2fba..ca3f690 100644
> >> --- a/mm/vmscan.c
> >> +++ b/mm/vmscan.c
> >> @@ -205,19 +205,19 @@ static inline int do_shrinker_shrink(struct shrinker *shrinker,
> >>   *
> >>   * Returns the number of slab objects which we shrunk.
> >>   */
> >> -unsigned long shrink_slab(struct shrink_control *shrink,
> >> +unsigned long shrink_slab(struct shrink_control *sc,
> >>  			  unsigned long nr_pages_scanned,
> >>  			  unsigned long lru_pages)
> >>  {
> > 
> > In every other part of vmscan.c, sc is a scan_control but here it is a
> > shrink_control. That's an unfortunate reuse of a name that cause me to
> > scratch my head later when I looked at the tracepoint modification.
> > shrinkc? It's a crappy suggestion but if you think of a better name than
> > sc then a rename would be nice.
> >
> 
> 
> I am all in favor of being explicit. How about we rename sc to...
> shrink_control ?
> 

It has the advantage of being impossible to confuse :)

-- 
Mel Gorman
SUSE Labs

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  reply	other threads:[~2013-04-30 15:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-04-26 23:18 [PATCH v4 00/31] kmemcg shrinkers Glauber Costa
2013-04-26 23:18 ` [PATCH v4 01/31] super: fix calculation of shrinkable objects for small numbers Glauber Costa
2013-04-30 13:03   ` Mel Gorman
2013-04-26 23:18 ` [PATCH v4 02/31] vmscan: take at least one pass with shrinkers Glauber Costa
2013-04-30 13:22   ` Mel Gorman
2013-04-30 13:31     ` Glauber Costa
2013-04-30 15:37       ` Mel Gorman
2013-05-07 13:35         ` Glauber Costa
2013-04-26 23:18 ` [PATCH v4 03/31] dcache: convert dentry_stat.nr_unused to per-cpu counters Glauber Costa
2013-04-30 13:37   ` Mel Gorman
2013-04-26 23:19 ` [PATCH v4 04/31] dentry: move to per-sb LRU locks Glauber Costa
2013-04-30 14:01   ` Mel Gorman
2013-04-26 23:19 ` [PATCH v4 05/31] dcache: remove dentries from LRU before putting on dispose list Glauber Costa
2013-04-30 14:14   ` Mel Gorman
2013-04-26 23:19 ` [PATCH v4 06/31] mm: new shrinker API Glauber Costa
2013-04-30 14:40   ` Mel Gorman
2013-04-30 15:03     ` Glauber Costa
2013-04-30 15:32       ` Mel Gorman [this message]
2013-04-26 23:19 ` [PATCH v4 07/31] shrinker: convert superblock shrinkers to new API Glauber Costa
2013-04-30 14:49   ` Mel Gorman
2013-04-26 23:19 ` [PATCH v4 08/31] list: add a new LRU list type Glauber Costa
2013-04-30 15:18   ` Mel Gorman
2013-04-30 16:01     ` Glauber Costa
2013-04-26 23:19 ` [PATCH v4 09/31] inode: convert inode lru list to generic lru list code Glauber Costa
2013-04-30 15:46   ` Mel Gorman
2013-05-07 13:47     ` Glauber Costa
2013-04-26 23:19 ` [PATCH v4 10/31] dcache: convert to use new lru list infrastructure Glauber Costa
2013-04-30 16:04   ` Mel Gorman
2013-04-30 16:13     ` Glauber Costa
2013-04-26 23:19 ` [PATCH v4 11/31] list_lru: per-node " Glauber Costa
2013-04-30 16:33   ` Mel Gorman
2013-04-30 21:44     ` Glauber Costa
2013-04-26 23:19 ` [PATCH v4 12/31] shrinker: add node awareness Glauber Costa
2013-04-30 16:35   ` Mel Gorman
2013-04-26 23:19 ` [PATCH v4 13/31] fs: convert inode and dentry shrinking to be node aware Glauber Costa
2013-04-30 17:39   ` Mel Gorman
2013-04-26 23:19 ` [PATCH v4 14/31] xfs: convert buftarg LRU to generic code Glauber Costa
2013-04-26 23:19 ` [PATCH v4 15/31] xfs: convert dquot cache lru to list_lru Glauber Costa
2013-04-26 23:19 ` [PATCH v4 16/31] fs: convert fs shrinkers to new scan/count API Glauber Costa
2013-04-26 23:19 ` [PATCH v4 17/31] drivers: convert shrinkers to new count/scan API Glauber Costa
2013-04-30 21:53   ` Mel Gorman
2013-04-30 22:00     ` Kent Overstreet
2013-05-02  9:37       ` Mel Gorman
2013-05-02 13:37         ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-01 15:26     ` Daniel Vetter
2013-05-02  9:31       ` Mel Gorman
2013-04-26 23:19 ` [PATCH v4 18/31] shrinker: convert remaining shrinkers to " Glauber Costa
2013-04-26 23:19 ` [PATCH v4 19/31] hugepage: convert huge zero page shrinker to new shrinker API Glauber Costa
2013-04-26 23:19 ` [PATCH v4 20/31] shrinker: Kill old ->shrink API Glauber Costa
2013-04-30 21:57   ` Mel Gorman
2013-04-26 23:19 ` [PATCH v4 21/31] vmscan: also shrink slab in memcg pressure Glauber Costa
2013-04-26 23:19 ` [PATCH v4 22/31] memcg,list_lru: duplicate LRUs upon kmemcg creation Glauber Costa
2013-04-26 23:19 ` [PATCH v4 23/31] lru: add an element to a memcg list Glauber Costa
2013-04-26 23:19 ` [PATCH v4 24/31] list_lru: per-memcg walks Glauber Costa
2013-04-26 23:19 ` [PATCH v4 25/31] memcg: per-memcg kmem shrinking Glauber Costa
2013-04-26 23:19 ` [PATCH v4 26/31] memcg: scan cache objects hierarchically Glauber Costa
2013-04-26 23:19 ` [PATCH v4 27/31] super: targeted memcg reclaim Glauber Costa
2013-04-26 23:19 ` [PATCH v4 28/31] memcg: move initialization to memcg creation Glauber Costa
2013-04-26 23:19 ` [PATCH v4 29/31] vmpressure: in-kernel notifications Glauber Costa
2013-04-26 23:19 ` [PATCH v4 30/31] memcg: reap dead memcgs upon global memory pressure Glauber Costa
2013-04-26 23:19 ` [PATCH v4 31/31] memcg: debugging facility to access dangling memcgs Glauber Costa
2013-04-30 22:47 ` [PATCH v4 00/31] kmemcg shrinkers Mel Gorman
2013-05-01  9:05   ` Mel Gorman

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