From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/10] uaccess: better might_sleep/might_fault behavior
Date: Wed, 22 May 2013 12:58:18 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130522095818.GB24931@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201305221125.36284.arnd@arndb.de>
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 11:25:36AM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> On Thursday 16 May 2013, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > This improves the might_fault annotations used
> > by uaccess routines:
> >
> > 1. The only reason uaccess routines might sleep
> > is if they fault. Make this explicit for
> > all architectures.
> > 2. Accesses (e.g through socket ops) to kernel memory
> > with KERNEL_DS like net/sunrpc does will never sleep.
> > Remove an unconditinal might_sleep in the inline
> > might_fault in kernel.h
> > (used when PROVE_LOCKING is not set).
> > 3. Accesses with pagefault_disable return EFAULT
> > but won't cause caller to sleep.
> > Check for that and avoid might_sleep when
> > PROVE_LOCKING is set.
> >
> > I'd like these changes to go in for the benefit of
> > the vhost driver where we want to call socket ops
> > under a spinlock, and fall back on slower thread handler
> > on error.
>
> Hi Michael,
>
> I have recently stumbled over a related topic, which is the highly
> inconsistent placement of might_fault() or might_sleep() in certain
> classes of uaccess functions. Your patches seem completely reasonable,
> but it would be good to also fix the other problem, at least on
> the architectures we most care about.
>
> Given the most commonly used functions and a couple of architectures
> I'm familiar with, these are the ones that currently call might_fault()
>
> x86-32 x86-64 arm arm64 powerpc s390 generic
> copy_to_user - x - - - x x
> copy_from_user - x - - - x x
> put_user x x x x x x x
> get_user x x x x x x x
> __copy_to_user x x - - x - -
> __copy_from_user x x - - x - -
> __put_user - - x - x - -
> __get_user - - x - x - -
>
> WTF?
Yea.
> Calling might_fault() for every __get_user/__put_user is rather expensive
> because it turns what should be a single instruction (plus fixup) into an
> external function call.
You mean _cond_resched with CONFIG_PREEMPT_VOLUNTARY? Or do you
mean when we build with PROVE_LOCKING?
> My feeling is that we should do might_fault() only in access_ok() to get
> the right balance.
>
> Arnd
Well access_ok is currently non-blocking I think - we'd have to audit
all callers. There are some 200 of these in drivers and some
1000 total so ... a bit risky.
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MST
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-05-22 9:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-05-16 11:07 [PATCH v2 00/10] uaccess: better might_sleep/might_fault behavior Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-16 11:10 ` [PATCH v2 01/10] asm-generic: uaccess s/might_sleep/might_fault/ Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-16 11:10 ` [PATCH v2 02/10] arm64: " Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-16 13:29 ` Catalin Marinas
2013-05-16 11:10 ` [PATCH v2 03/10] frv: " Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-16 11:11 ` [PATCH v2 04/10] m32r: " Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-16 11:11 ` [PATCH v2 05/10] microblaze: " Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-16 11:12 ` [PATCH v2 06/10] mn10300: " Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-16 11:15 ` [PATCH v2 07/10] powerpc: " Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-22 13:59 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-05-22 14:30 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-24 13:00 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-24 13:11 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-24 13:30 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-05-16 11:15 ` [PATCH v2 08/10] tile: " Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-16 13:33 ` Chris Metcalf
2013-05-16 11:15 ` [PATCH v2 09/10] x86: " Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-16 11:16 ` [PATCH v2 10/10] kernel: might_fault does not imply might_sleep Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-16 18:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-05-19 9:35 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-19 12:34 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-05-19 13:34 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-19 16:06 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-05-19 16:40 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-19 20:23 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-05-19 20:35 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-21 11:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-05-21 11:21 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-05-21 11:57 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-05-21 13:28 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-22 9:47 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-22 10:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-05-22 20:38 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-22 20:36 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-22 9:25 ` [PATCH v2 00/10] uaccess: better might_sleep/might_fault behavior Arnd Bergmann
2013-05-22 9:58 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2013-05-22 10:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-05-22 11:07 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-22 11:27 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-05-22 13:41 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-05-22 14:04 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-05-22 14:44 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-24 14:18 ` [PATCH v3 10/11] kernel: drop voluntary schedule from might_fault Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-24 14:18 ` [PATCH v3 11/11] kernel: uaccess in atomic with pagefault_disable Michael S. Tsirkin
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