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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Dan Magenheimer <dan.magenheimer@oracle.com>
Cc: Seth Jennings <sjenning@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Nitin Gupta <ngupta@vflare.org>, Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
	Konrad Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
	Robert Jennings <rcj@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Jenifer Hopper <jhopper@us.ibm.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Johannes Weiner <jweiner@redhat.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Larry Woodman <lwoodman@redhat.com>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	Dave Hansen <dave@sr71.net>, Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>,
	Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com>,
	Cody P Schafer <cody@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Hugh Dickens <hughd@google.com>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	Heesub Shin <heesub.shin@samsung.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	devel@driverdev.osuosl.org
Subject: Re: [PATCHv12 2/4] zbud: add to mm/
Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 14:29:04 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130529142904.ace2a29b90a9076d0ee251fd@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <754ae8a0-23af-4c87-953f-d608cba84191@default>

On Wed, 29 May 2013 14:09:02 -0700 (PDT) Dan Magenheimer <dan.magenheimer@oracle.com> wrote:

> > memory_failure() is merely an example of a general problem: code which
> > reads from the memmap[] array and expects its elements to be of type
> > `struct page'.  Other examples might be memory hotplugging, memory leak
> > checkers etc.  I have vague memories of out-of-tree patches
> > (bigphysarea?) doing this as well.
> > 
> > It's a general problem to which we need a general solution.
> 
> <Obi-tmem Kenobe slowly materializes... "use the force, Luke!">
> 
> One could reasonably argue that any code that makes incorrect
> assumptions about the contents of a struct page structure is buggy
> and should be fixed.

Well it has type "struct page" and all code has a right to expect the
contents to match that type.

>  Isn't the "general solution" already described
> in the following comment, excerpted from include/linux/mm.h, which
> implies that "scribbling on existing pageframes" [carefully], is fine?
> (And, if not, shouldn't that comment be fixed, or am I misreading
> it?)
> 
> <start excerpt>
>  * For the non-reserved pages, page_count(page) denotes a reference count.
>  *   page_count() == 0 means the page is free. page->lru is then used for
>  *   freelist management in the buddy allocator.
>  *   page_count() > 0  means the page has been allocated.

Well kinda maybe.  How all the random memmap-peekers handle this I do
not know.  Setting PageReserved is a big hammer which should keep other
little paws out of there, although I guess it's abusive of whatever
PageReserved is supposed to mean.

It's what we used to call a variant record.  The tag is page.flags and
the protocol is, umm,

PageReserved: doesn't refer to a page at all - don't touch
PageSlab: belongs to slab or slub
!PageSlab: regular kernel/user/pagecache page

Are there any more?

So what to do here?  How about

- Position the zbud fields within struct page via the preferred
  means: editing its definition.

- Decide upon and document the means by which the zbud variant is tagged

- Demonstrate how this is safe against existing memmap-peekers

- Do all this without consuming another page flag :)

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  reply	other threads:[~2013-05-29 21:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-05-20 16:26 [PATCHv12 0/4] zswap: compressed swap caching Seth Jennings
2013-05-20 16:26 ` [PATCHv12 1/4] debugfs: add get/set for atomic types Seth Jennings
2013-05-29 17:42   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-05-20 16:26 ` [PATCHv12 2/4] zbud: add to mm/ Seth Jennings
2013-05-21  3:37   ` Bob Liu
2013-05-28 21:59   ` Andrew Morton
2013-05-29 15:45     ` Seth Jennings
2013-05-29 18:34       ` Andrew Morton
2013-05-29 20:42         ` Seth Jennings
2013-05-29 20:48           ` Andrew Morton
2013-05-29 21:09             ` Dan Magenheimer
2013-05-29 21:29               ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2013-05-30 17:43                 ` Seth Jennings
2013-05-30 21:20                   ` Seth Jennings
2013-05-31  1:48                     ` Bob Liu
2013-06-03 13:48                   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-05-29 20:45         ` Seth Jennings
2013-05-20 16:26 ` [PATCHv12 3/4] zswap: " Seth Jennings
2013-05-21  3:31   ` Bob Liu
2013-05-28 21:59   ` Andrew Morton
2013-05-29 14:57     ` Seth Jennings
2013-05-29 18:29       ` Andrew Morton
2013-05-29 19:50         ` Seth Jennings
2013-05-29 19:57           ` Andrew Morton
2013-05-29 21:08             ` Seth Jennings
2013-05-29 21:16               ` Andrew Morton
2013-05-20 16:26 ` [PATCHv12 4/4] zswap: add documentation Seth Jennings

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