From: Seth Jennings <sjenning@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Nitin Gupta <ngupta@vflare.org>, Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCHv12 3/4] zswap: add to mm/
Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 14:50:27 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130529195027.GC428@cerebellum> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130529112929.24005ae9cf1d9d636b2ea42f@linux-foundation.org>
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 11:29:29AM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Wed, 29 May 2013 09:57:20 -0500 Seth Jennings <sjenning@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
>
> > > > +/*********************************
> > > > +* helpers
> > > > +**********************************/
> > > > +static inline bool zswap_is_full(void)
> > > > +{
> > > > + return (totalram_pages * zswap_max_pool_percent / 100 <
> > > > + zswap_pool_pages);
> > > > +}
> > >
> > > We have had issues in the past where percentage-based tunables were too
> > > coarse on very large machines. For example, a terabyte machine where 0
> > > bytes is too small and 10GB is too large.
> >
> > Yes, this is known limitation of the code right now and it is a high priority
> > to come up with something better. It isn't clear what dynamic sizing policy
> > should be used so, until such time as that policy can be determined, this is a
> > simple stop-gap that works well enough for simple setups.
>
> It's a module parameter and hence is part of the userspace interface.
> It's undesirable that the interface be changed, and it would be rather
> dumb to merge it as-is when we *know* that it will be changed.
>
> I don't think we can remove the parameter altogether (or can we?), so I
> suggest we finalise it ASAP. Perhaps rename it to
> zswap_max_pool_ratio, with a range 1..999999. Better ideas needed :(
zswap_max_pool_ratio is fine with me. I'm not entirely clear on the change
though. Would that just be a name change or a change in meaning?
Also, we can keep the tunable as I imagine there will always be some use for a
manual override of the (future) dynamic policy. When the dynamic policy is
available, we can just say that zswap_max_pool_ratio = 0 means "use dynamic
policy" and change the default to 0. Does that sounds reasonable?
Seth
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-05-29 19:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-05-20 16:26 [PATCHv12 0/4] zswap: compressed swap caching Seth Jennings
2013-05-20 16:26 ` [PATCHv12 1/4] debugfs: add get/set for atomic types Seth Jennings
2013-05-29 17:42 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-05-20 16:26 ` [PATCHv12 2/4] zbud: add to mm/ Seth Jennings
2013-05-21 3:37 ` Bob Liu
2013-05-28 21:59 ` Andrew Morton
2013-05-29 15:45 ` Seth Jennings
2013-05-29 18:34 ` Andrew Morton
2013-05-29 20:42 ` Seth Jennings
2013-05-29 20:48 ` Andrew Morton
2013-05-29 21:09 ` Dan Magenheimer
2013-05-29 21:29 ` Andrew Morton
2013-05-30 17:43 ` Seth Jennings
2013-05-30 21:20 ` Seth Jennings
2013-05-31 1:48 ` Bob Liu
2013-06-03 13:48 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-05-29 20:45 ` Seth Jennings
2013-05-20 16:26 ` [PATCHv12 3/4] zswap: " Seth Jennings
2013-05-21 3:31 ` Bob Liu
2013-05-28 21:59 ` Andrew Morton
2013-05-29 14:57 ` Seth Jennings
2013-05-29 18:29 ` Andrew Morton
2013-05-29 19:50 ` Seth Jennings [this message]
2013-05-29 19:57 ` Andrew Morton
2013-05-29 21:08 ` Seth Jennings
2013-05-29 21:16 ` Andrew Morton
2013-05-20 16:26 ` [PATCHv12 4/4] zswap: add documentation Seth Jennings
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