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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ying Han <yinghan@google.com>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Glauber Costa <glommer@parallels.com>,
	Michel Lespinasse <walken@google.com>,
	Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>,
	Balbir Singh <bsingharora@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [patch -v4 4/8] memcg: enhance memcg iterator to support predicates
Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 22:48:07 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130604204807.GA13231@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130604193619.GA14916@htj.dyndns.org>

On Tue 04-06-13 12:36:19, Tejun Heo wrote:
> Hey, Michal.
> 
> On Tue, Jun 04, 2013 at 03:45:23PM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > Is this something that you find serious enough to block this series?
> > I do not want to push hard but I would like to settle with something
> > finally. This is taking way longer than I would like.
> 
> I really don't think memcg can afford to add more mess than there
> already is.  Let's try to get things right with each change, please.

Is this really about inside vs. outside skipping? I think this is a
general improvement to the code. I really prefer not duplicating common
code and skipping handling is such a code (we have a visitor which can
control the walk). With a side bonus that it doesn't have to pollute
vmscan more than necessary.

Please be more specific about _what_ is so ugly about this interface so
that it matters so much.

> Can we please see how the other approach would look like?  I have a
> suspicion that it's likely be simpler but the devils are in the
> details and all...
>
> > > The iteration only depends on the current position.  Can't you factor
> > > out skipping part outside the function rather than rolling into this
> > > monstery thing with predicate callback?  Just test the condition
> > > outside and call a function to skip whatever is necessary?
> > > 
> > > Also, cgroup_rightmost_descendant() can be pretty expensive depending
> > > on how your tree looks like. 
> > 
> > I have no problem using something else. This was just the easiest to
> > use and it behaves more-or-less good for hierarchies which are more or
> > less balanced. If this turns out to be a problem we can introduce a
> > new cgroup_skip_subtree which would get to last->sibling or go up the
> > parent chain until there is non-NULL sibling. But what would be the next
> > selling point here if we made it perfect right now? ;)
> 
> Yeah, sure thing.  I was just worried because the skipping here might
> not be as good as the code seems to indicate.  There will be cases,
> which aren't too uncommon, where the skipping doesn't save much
> compared to just continuing the pre-order walk, so....  And nobody
> would really notice it unless [s]he looks really hard for it, which is
> the more worrisome part for me.  Maybe just stick a comment there
> explaining that we probably want something better in the future?

Sure thing. I will stick there a comment:

diff --git a/mm/memcontrol.c b/mm/memcontrol.c
index 91740f7..43e955a 100644
--- a/mm/memcontrol.c
+++ b/mm/memcontrol.c
@@ -1073,6 +1073,14 @@ skip_node:
 			prev_cgroup = next_cgroup;
 			goto skip_node;
 		case SKIP_TREE:
+			/*
+			 * cgroup_rightmost_descendant is not an optimal way to
+			 * skip through a subtree (especially for imbalanced
+			 * trees leaning to right) but that's what we have right
+			 * now. More effective solution would be traversing
+			 * right-up for first non-NULL without calling
+			 * cgroup_next_descendant_pre afterwards.
+			 */
 			prev_cgroup = cgroup_rightmost_descendant(next_cgroup);
 			goto skip_node;
 		case VISIT:

Better?
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

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  reply	other threads:[~2013-06-04 20:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-03 10:18 [patch v4] Soft limit rework Michal Hocko
2013-06-03 10:18 ` [patch -v4 1/8] memcg: integrate soft reclaim tighter with zone shrinking code Michal Hocko
2013-06-03 10:18 ` [patch -v4 2/8] memcg: Get rid of soft-limit tree infrastructure Michal Hocko
2013-06-03 10:18 ` [patch -v4 3/8] vmscan, memcg: Do softlimit reclaim also for targeted reclaim Michal Hocko
2013-06-03 10:18 ` [patch -v4 4/8] memcg: enhance memcg iterator to support predicates Michal Hocko
2013-06-04  1:07   ` Tejun Heo
2013-06-04 13:45     ` Michal Hocko
2013-06-04 19:36       ` Tejun Heo
2013-06-04 20:48         ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2013-06-04 20:54           ` Tejun Heo
2013-06-05  7:37             ` Michal Hocko
2013-06-05  8:05               ` Tejun Heo
2013-06-05  8:52                 ` Michal Hocko
2013-06-05  8:58                   ` Tejun Heo
2013-06-05  9:07                     ` Michal Hocko
2013-06-05  9:09                       ` Tejun Heo
2013-06-07  0:48                         ` Tejun Heo
2013-06-07  8:25                           ` Michal Hocko
2013-06-10  7:48   ` Michal Hocko
2013-06-03 10:18 ` [patch -v4 5/8] memcg: track children in soft limit excess to improve soft limit Michal Hocko
2013-06-03 10:18 ` [patch -v4 6/8] memcg, vmscan: Do not attempt soft limit reclaim if it would not scan anything Michal Hocko
2013-06-03 10:18 ` [patch -v4 7/8] memcg: Track all children over limit in the root Michal Hocko
2013-06-03 10:18 ` [patch -v4 8/8] memcg, vmscan: do not fall into reclaim-all pass too quickly Michal Hocko
2013-06-04 16:27 ` [patch v4] Soft limit rework Balbir Singh
2013-06-04 16:38   ` Michal Hocko
2013-06-04 17:57     ` Balbir Singh
2013-06-04 18:08       ` Michal Hocko
2013-06-11 15:43 ` Michal Hocko
2013-06-17 14:01   ` Michal Hocko

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