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From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>
Cc: hannes@cmpxchg.org, bsingharora@gmail.com,
	cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, lizefan@huawei.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] memcg: simplify mem_cgroup_reclaim_iter
Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 14:55:35 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130604215535.GM14916@htj.dyndns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130604212808.GB13231@dhcp22.suse.cz>

Hello, Michal.

On Tue, Jun 04, 2013 at 11:28:08PM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> Well, I do not mind pinning when I know that somebody releases the
> reference in a predictable future (ideally almost immediately). But the
> cached iter represents time unbounded pinning because nobody can
> guarantee that priority 3 at zone Normal at node 3 will be ever scanned
> again and the pointer in the last_visited node will be stuck there for

I don't really get that.  As long as the amount is bound and the
overhead negligible / acceptable, why does it matter how long the
pinning persists?  We aren't talking about something gigantic or can
leak continuously.  It will only matter iff cgroups are continuously
created and destroyed and each live memcg will be able to pin one
memcg (BTW, I think I forgot to unpin on memcg destruction).

> eternity. Can we free memcg with only css elevated and safely check that
> the cached pointer can be used without similar dances we have now?
> I am open to any suggestions.

I really think this is worrying too much about something which doesn't
really matter and then coming up with an over-engineered solution for
the imagined problem.  This isn't a real problem.  No solution is
necessary.

In the off chance that this is a real problem, which I strongly doubt,
as I wrote to Johannes, we can implement extremely dumb cleanup
routine rather than this weak reference beast.

Thanks.

-- 
tejun

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  reply	other threads:[~2013-06-04 21:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-04  0:44 [PATCHSET] memcg: fix and reimplement iterator Tejun Heo
2013-06-04  0:44 ` [PATCH 1/3] memcg: fix subtle memory barrier bug in mem_cgroup_iter() Tejun Heo
2013-06-04 13:03   ` Michal Hocko
2013-06-04 13:58     ` Johannes Weiner
2013-06-04 15:29       ` Michal Hocko
2013-06-04  0:44 ` [PATCH 2/3] memcg: restructure mem_cgroup_iter() Tejun Heo
2013-06-04 13:21   ` Michal Hocko
2013-06-04 20:51     ` Tejun Heo
2013-06-04  0:44 ` [PATCH 3/3] memcg: simplify mem_cgroup_reclaim_iter Tejun Heo
2013-06-04 13:18   ` Michal Hocko
2013-06-04 20:50     ` Tejun Heo
2013-06-04 21:28       ` Michal Hocko
2013-06-04 21:55         ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2013-06-05  7:30           ` Michal Hocko
2013-06-05  8:20             ` Tejun Heo
2013-06-05  8:36               ` Michal Hocko
2013-06-05  8:44                 ` Tejun Heo
2013-06-05  8:55                   ` Michal Hocko
2013-06-05  9:03                     ` Tejun Heo
2013-06-05 14:39               ` Johannes Weiner
2013-06-05 14:50                 ` Johannes Weiner
2013-06-05 14:56                 ` Michal Hocko
2013-06-05 17:22                 ` Tejun Heo
2013-06-05 19:45                   ` Johannes Weiner
2013-06-05 20:06                     ` Tejun Heo
2013-06-05 21:17                       ` Johannes Weiner
2013-06-05 22:20                         ` Tejun Heo
2013-06-05 22:27                           ` Tejun Heo
2013-06-06 11:50                             ` Michal Hocko
2013-06-07  0:52                               ` Tejun Heo
2013-06-07  7:37                                 ` Michal Hocko
2013-06-07 23:25                                   ` Tejun Heo
2013-06-10  8:02                                     ` Michal Hocko
2013-06-10 19:54                                       ` Tejun Heo
2013-06-10 20:48                                         ` Michal Hocko
2013-06-10 23:13                                           ` Tejun Heo
2013-06-11  7:27                                             ` Michal Hocko
2013-06-11  7:44                                               ` Tejun Heo
2013-06-11  7:55                                                 ` Michal Hocko
2013-06-11  8:00                                                   ` Tejun Heo
2013-06-04 21:40       ` Johannes Weiner
2013-06-04 21:49         ` Tejun Heo

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