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From: Frank Mehnert <frank.mehnert@oracle.com>
To: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
Cc: Robin Holt <holt@sgi.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
Subject: Re: Handling NUMA page migration
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 12:35:35 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201306051235.35678.frank.mehnert@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130605101019.GA18242@suse.de>

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On Wednesday 05 June 2013 12:10:19 Mel Gorman wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 04, 2013 at 06:58:07AM -0500, Robin Holt wrote:
> > > B) 1. allocate memory with alloc_pages()
> > > 
> > >    2. SetPageReserved()
> > >    3. vm_mmap() to allocate a userspace mapping
> > >    4. vm_insert_page()
> > >    5. vm_flags |= (VM_DONTEXPAND | VM_DONTDUMP)
> > >    
> > >       (resulting flags are VM_MIXEDMAP | VM_DONTDUMP | VM_DONTEXPAND |
> > >       0xff)
> > > 
> > > At least the memory allocated like B) is affected by automatic NUMA
> > > page migration. I'm not sure about A).
> > > 
> > > 1. How can I prevent automatic NUMA page migration on this memory?
> > > 2. Can NUMA page migration also be handled on such kind of memory
> > > without
> > > 
> > >    preventing migration?
> 
> Page migration does not expect a PageReserved && PageLRU page. The only
> reserved check that is made by migration is for the zero page and that
> happens in the syscall path for move_pages() which is not used by either
> compaction or automatic balancing.
> 
> At some point you must have a driver that is setting PageReserved on
> anonymous pages that is later encountered by automatic numa balancing
> during a NUMA hinting fault.  I expect this is an out-of-tree driver or
> a custom kernel of some sort. Memory should be pinned by elevating the
> reference count of the page, not setting PageReserved.

Yes, this is ring 0 code from VirtualBox. The VBox ring 0 driver does the
steps which are shown above. Setting PageReserved is not only for pinning
but also for fork() protection. I've tried to do get_page() as well but
it did not help preventing the migration during NUMA balancing.

As I wrote, the code for allocating + mapping the memory assumes that
the memory is finally pinned and will be never unmapped. That assumption
might be wrong or wrong under certain/rare conditions. I would like to
know these conditions and how we can prevent them from happening or how
we can handle them correctly.

> It's not particularly clear how you avoid hitting the same bug due to THP
> and memory compaction to be honest but maybe your setup hits a steady
> state that simply never hit the problem or it happens rarely and it was
> not identified.

I'm currently using the stock Ubuntu 13.04 generic kernel (3.8.0-23),
patched with some additional logging code. It is true that this problem
could also be triggered by other kernel mechanisms as you described.

Thanks,

Frank
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  reply	other threads:[~2013-06-05 10:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <201306040922.10235.frank.mehnert@oracle.com>
2013-06-04 11:58 ` Handling NUMA page migration Robin Holt
2013-06-04 12:14   ` Frank Mehnert
2013-06-04 13:34     ` Robin Holt
2013-06-04 14:02     ` Michal Hocko
2013-06-04 18:17       ` Frank Mehnert
2013-06-04 21:54         ` Frank Mehnert
2013-06-05  7:54           ` Michal Hocko
2013-06-05  8:34             ` Frank Mehnert
2013-06-05  8:56               ` Frank Mehnert
2013-06-05  9:10               ` Michal Hocko
2013-06-05  9:32                 ` Frank Mehnert
2013-06-05  9:56                   ` Michal Hocko
2013-06-05 10:22                     ` Frank Mehnert
2013-06-05 11:41                       ` Michal Hocko
2013-06-04 15:45     ` Jerome Glisse
2013-06-04 17:49       ` Jerome Glisse
2013-06-05 10:10   ` Mel Gorman
2013-06-05 10:35     ` Frank Mehnert [this message]
2013-06-05 12:34       ` Mel Gorman
2013-06-06 10:09         ` Frank Mehnert

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