From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Cc: Glauber Costa <glommer@openvz.org>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com, Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
hughd@google.com, Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>,
Dave Chinner <dchinner@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 11/35] list_lru: per-node list infrastructure
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 20:51:23 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130605205123.7be6a0fe.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130606032107.GQ29338@dastard>
On Thu, 6 Jun 2013 13:21:07 +1000 Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com> wrote:
> > > +struct list_lru {
> > > + /*
> > > + * Because we use a fixed-size array, this struct can be very big if
> > > + * MAX_NUMNODES is big. If this becomes a problem this is fixable by
> > > + * turning this into a pointer and dynamically allocating this to
> > > + * nr_node_ids. This quantity is firwmare-provided, and still would
> > > + * provide room for all nodes at the cost of a pointer lookup and an
> > > + * extra allocation. Because that allocation will most likely come from
> > > + * a different slab cache than the main structure holding this
> > > + * structure, we may very well fail.
> > > + */
> > > + struct list_lru_node node[MAX_NUMNODES];
> > > + nodemask_t active_nodes;
> >
> > Some documentation of the data structure would be helpful. It appears
> > that active_nodes tracks (ie: duplicates) node[x].nr_items!=0.
> >
> > It's unclear that active_nodes is really needed - we could just iterate
> > across all items in list_lru.node[]. Are we sure that the correct
> > tradeoff decision was made here?
>
> Yup. Think of all the cache line misses that checking
> node[x].nr_items != 0 entails. If MAX_NUMNODES = 1024, there's 1024
> cacheline misses right there. The nodemask is a much more cache
> friendly method of storing active node state.
Well, it depends on the relative frequency of list-wide walking. If
that's "very low" then the cost of maintaining active_nodes could
dominate.
Plus all the callsites which traverse active_nodes will touch
list_lru.node[n] anyway, so the cache-miss impact will be unaltered.
> not to mention that for small machines with a large MAX_NUMNODES,
> we'd be checking nodes that never have items stored on them...
Yes, there is that.
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Thread overview: 103+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-06-03 19:29 [PATCH v10 00/35] kmemcg shrinkers Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29 ` [PATCH v10 01/35] fs: bump inode and dentry counters to long Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29 ` [PATCH v10 02/35] super: fix calculation of shrinkable objects for small numbers Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29 ` [PATCH v10 03/35] dcache: convert dentry_stat.nr_unused to per-cpu counters Glauber Costa
2013-06-05 23:07 ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-06 1:45 ` Dave Chinner
2013-06-06 2:48 ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-06 4:02 ` Dave Chinner
2013-06-06 12:40 ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-06 22:25 ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-06 23:42 ` Dave Chinner
2013-06-07 6:03 ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29 ` [PATCH v10 04/35] dentry: move to per-sb LRU locks Glauber Costa
2013-06-05 23:07 ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-06 1:56 ` Dave Chinner
2013-06-06 8:03 ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-06 12:51 ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29 ` [PATCH v10 05/35] dcache: remove dentries from LRU before putting on dispose list Glauber Costa
2013-06-05 23:07 ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-06 8:04 ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29 ` [PATCH v10 06/35] mm: new shrinker API Glauber Costa
2013-06-05 23:07 ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-06 7:58 ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29 ` [PATCH v10 07/35] shrinker: convert superblock shrinkers to new API Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29 ` [PATCH v10 08/35] list: add a new LRU list type Glauber Costa
2013-06-05 23:07 ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-06 2:49 ` Dave Chinner
2013-06-06 3:05 ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-06 4:44 ` Dave Chinner
2013-06-06 7:04 ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-06 9:03 ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-06 9:55 ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-06 11:47 ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-06 14:28 ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-06 8:10 ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29 ` [PATCH v10 09/35] inode: convert inode lru list to generic lru list code Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29 ` [PATCH v10 10/35] dcache: convert to use new lru list infrastructure Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29 ` [PATCH v10 11/35] list_lru: per-node " Glauber Costa
2013-06-05 23:08 ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-06 3:21 ` Dave Chinner
2013-06-06 3:51 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2013-06-06 8:21 ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-06 16:15 ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-06 16:48 ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-03 19:29 ` [PATCH v10 12/35] shrinker: add node awareness Glauber Costa
2013-06-05 23:08 ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-06 3:26 ` Dave Chinner
2013-06-06 3:54 ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-06 8:23 ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29 ` [PATCH v10 13/35] vmscan: per-node deferred work Glauber Costa
2013-06-05 23:08 ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-06 3:37 ` Dave Chinner
2013-06-06 4:59 ` Dave Chinner
2013-06-06 7:12 ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-06 9:00 ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29 ` [PATCH v10 14/35] list_lru: per-node API Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29 ` [PATCH v10 15/35] fs: convert inode and dentry shrinking to be node aware Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29 ` [PATCH v10 16/35] xfs: convert buftarg LRU to generic code Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29 ` [PATCH v10 17/35] xfs: rework buffer dispose list tracking Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29 ` [PATCH v10 18/35] xfs: convert dquot cache lru to list_lru Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29 ` [PATCH v10 19/35] fs: convert fs shrinkers to new scan/count API Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29 ` [PATCH v10 20/35] drivers: convert shrinkers to new count/scan API Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29 ` [PATCH v10 21/35] i915: bail out earlier when shrinker cannot acquire mutex Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29 ` [PATCH v10 22/35] shrinker: convert remaining shrinkers to count/scan API Glauber Costa
2013-06-05 23:08 ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-06 3:41 ` Dave Chinner
2013-06-06 8:27 ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29 ` [PATCH v10 23/35] hugepage: convert huge zero page shrinker to new shrinker API Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29 ` [PATCH v10 24/35] shrinker: Kill old ->shrink API Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29 ` [PATCH v10 25/35] vmscan: also shrink slab in memcg pressure Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29 ` [PATCH v10 26/35] memcg,list_lru: duplicate LRUs upon kmemcg creation Glauber Costa
2013-06-05 23:08 ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-06 8:52 ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29 ` [PATCH v10 27/35] lru: add an element to a memcg list Glauber Costa
2013-06-05 23:08 ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-06 8:44 ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29 ` [PATCH v10 28/35] list_lru: per-memcg walks Glauber Costa
2013-06-05 23:08 ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-06 8:37 ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29 ` [PATCH v10 29/35] memcg: per-memcg kmem shrinking Glauber Costa
2013-06-05 23:08 ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-06 8:35 ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-06 9:49 ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-06 12:09 ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-06 22:23 ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-07 6:10 ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29 ` [PATCH v10 30/35] memcg: scan cache objects hierarchically Glauber Costa
2013-06-05 23:08 ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-03 19:30 ` [PATCH v10 31/35] vmscan: take at least one pass with shrinkers Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:30 ` [PATCH v10 32/35] super: targeted memcg reclaim Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:30 ` [PATCH v10 33/35] memcg: move initialization to memcg creation Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:30 ` [PATCH v10 34/35] vmpressure: in-kernel notifications Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:30 ` [PATCH v10 35/35] memcg: reap dead memcgs upon global memory pressure Glauber Costa
2013-06-05 23:09 ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-06 8:33 ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-05 23:07 ` [PATCH v10 00/35] kmemcg shrinkers Andrew Morton
2013-06-06 3:44 ` Dave Chinner
2013-06-06 5:51 ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-06 7:18 ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-06 7:37 ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-06 7:47 ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-06 7:59 ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-07 14:15 ` Michal Hocko
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