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* Slow swap-in with SSD
@ 2013-06-11 14:34 Martin Steigerwald
  2013-06-12 20:42 ` Rob Landley
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 2+ messages in thread
From: Martin Steigerwald @ 2013-06-11 14:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-mm, linux-kernel

Hi!

Using Linux 3.10-rc5 on an ThinkPad T520 with Intel Sandybridge i5-2620M,
8 GiB RAM and Intel SSD 320. Currently I have Zcache enabled to test the
effects of it but I observed similar figures on kernels without Zcache.

If I let the kernel swap out for example with

stress -m 1 --vm-keep --vm-bytes 5G

or so, then swapping out is pretty fast, I have seen values around
100-200 MiB/s

But on issuing a swapoff command to swap stuff in again, the swap in is
abysmally slow, just a few MiB/s (see below).

I wonder why is that so? The SSD is basically idling around on swap-in.


merkaba:~> stress -m 1 --vm-keep --vm-bytes 5G
stress: info: [10998] dispatching hogs: 0 cpu, 0 io, 1 vm, 0 hdd
^C

merkaba:~> swapon -s
Filename                                Type            Size    Used    Priority
/dev/mapper/merkaba-swap                partition       12582908        2168872 -1

merkaba:~> free -m
             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
Mem:          7767       2342       5425          0          0        305
-/+ buffers/cache:       2036       5730
Swap:        12287       2182      10105



merkaba:~> vmstat 1
procs -----------memory---------- ---swap-- -----io---- -system-- ----cpu----
 r  b   swpd   free   buff  cache   si   so    bi    bo   in   cs us sy id wa
 1  0 2234528 5554868     40 313056    5   14   532    53  225  309  6  2 91  0
 0  0 2234508 5554736     40 313168   60    0    60     0  573  926  0  1 99  0
 0  0 2234508 5554736     40 313168    0    0     0     0  708 1317  1  1 98  0
 0  0 2234492 5554612     40 313168   52    0    52     0  530  946  0  1 99  0
 1  0 2193204 5524412    372 340940 1908    0  2476     0 3857 6961  1 22 75  2
 1  0 2190412 5522924    372 341044    0    0     0     0 2334 4606  0 26 74  0
 1  0 2187116 5521188    372 341044    0    0     0     0 2212 4625  0 26 74  0
 1  0 2182972 5517964    372 341072 1852    0  1852     0 3635 6901  0 25 73  2
 1  0 2178332 5515112    372 341076  196    0   196     0 2460 4997  1 26 73  1
 2  0 2172832 5511980    372 341076  104    0   104     0 2275 4742  0 26 74  0
 1  0 2165116 5508136    372 341076   12    0    12     0 2320 4741  0 26 74  0
 1  0 2154596 5501936    372 341080   92    0    92     0 2263 4768  0 26 74  0
 1  0 2144784 5494620    372 341108 3048    0  3048     0 4491 8359  1 24 73  3
 1  0 2135528 5486748    372 341092 5376    0  5376     0 5969 10706  1 23 72  4
 1  0 2131528 5481984    372 341268 2160    0  4776     0 3841 7337  1 24 72  3
 1  3 2128708 5478008    372 341544 3324    0  3648     0 3844 7318  0 24 72  4
 2  0 2126884 5463440    372 353084 2956    0 95900     0 9990 19942  1 27 51 21
 1  0 2124888 5461332    372 353084 1592    0  1592     0 3453 6590  0 25 73  2
 2  1 2118644 5439740    372 360832 6364    0 86884     4 10292 20131  1 29 42 27
 1  0 2113572 5415604    372 370908 4812    0 33340     0 9810 18000  5 33 52 10
 1  0 2111736 5413872    372 370684 1596    0  1684     0 3475 6487  1 25 73  2
 1  0 2109836 5411888    372 370728 1912    0  1912     0 3571 6776  0 25 73  2
 1  0 2107804 5410028    372 370740 1360    0  1360     0 3162 6164  0 25 73  2
 1  0 2106104 5407996    372 370740 1820    0  1820     0 3355 6493  0 25 73  2
 1  0 2103756 5406136    372 370776  976    0   976     0 3057 5974  1 26 71  1
 1  0 2101548 5403160    372 370776 2356    0  2356     0 3588 6939  1 26 71  2
 1  0 2099000 5400804    372 370776 1948    0  1948     0 3666 6884  1 25 72  3
 2  0 2096784 5398820    372 370776 1944    0  1944     0 3881 7383  1 27 70  2
 1  0 2094976 5397208    372 370776 1584    0  1584     0 3541 6564  1 25 73  2
 1  0 2092924 5394976    372 370776 1752    0  1752     0 3513 6649  0 24 73  2
 1  0 2089460 5391752    372 370776 1072    0  1072     0 3051 5932  1 25 73  2
 1  0 2084456 5389116    372 370776  496    0   496     0 2694 5272  0 26 74  1
 1  1 2081160 5386256    372 370804 2116    0  2116   696 4039 7462  1 25 73  2
 3  0 2077804 5383156    372 370816 3004    0  3004     0 4394 8157  1 24 73  3
 1  0 2075284 5380800    372 370816 1856    0  1856     0 3570 6831  1 25 73  2
 1  0 2073544 5379064    372 370824 1452    0  1452     0 3246 6270  0 25 73  2


According to atop the SSD is about 5-15% busy.


Swapoff is quite CPU busy:

  PID   TID  RUID      EUID       THR SYSCPU  USRCPU   VGROW   RGROW  RDDSK   WRDSK  ST  EXC S  CPUNR   CPU  CMD        1/7
11006     -  root      root         1  7.54s   0.00s      0K      0K 30100K      0K  --    - R      0   76%  swapoff

  PID   TID  RUID      EUID       THR SYSCPU  USRCPU   VGROW   RGROW  RDDSK   WRDSK  ST  EXC S  CPUNR   CPU  CMD        1/8
11006     -  root      root         1  9.65s   0.00s      0K      0K  7148K      0K  --    - R      3   97%  swapoff

  PID   TID  RUID      EUID       THR SYSCPU  USRCPU   VGROW   RGROW  RDDSK   WRDSK  ST  EXC S  CPUNR   CPU  CMD        1/6
11006     -  root      root         1  9.60s   0.00s      0K      0K  8752K      0K  --    - R      3   96%  swapoff


Anyway idea?


I can try this without Zcache as well. But I am pretty sure it was slow
as well. But I had ZCACHE compiled in, as far as I guess from hints on
the web, I bet its basically a no-op unless enabled with "zcache" kernel
commandline parameter.

Thanks,
-- 
Martin Steigerwald - teamix GmbH - http://www.teamix.de
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* Re: Slow swap-in with SSD
  2013-06-11 14:34 Slow swap-in with SSD Martin Steigerwald
@ 2013-06-12 20:42 ` Rob Landley
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 2+ messages in thread
From: Rob Landley @ 2013-06-12 20:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Martin Steigerwald; +Cc: linux-mm, linux-kernel

On 06/11/2013 09:34:36 AM, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> Using Linux 3.10-rc5 on an ThinkPad T520 with Intel Sandybridge  
> i5-2620M,
> 8 GiB RAM and Intel SSD 320. Currently I have Zcache enabled to test  
> the
> effects of it but I observed similar figures on kernels without  
> Zcache.
> 
> If I let the kernel swap out for example with
> 
> stress -m 1 --vm-keep --vm-bytes 5G
> 
> or so, then swapping out is pretty fast, I have seen values around
> 100-200 MiB/s
> 
> But on issuing a swapoff command to swap stuff in again, the swap in  
> is
> abysmally slow, just a few MiB/s (see below).
> 
> I wonder why is that so? The SSD is basically idling around on  
> swap-in.

Transaction granularity. Swapping out can queue up large batches of  
pages because you can queue up more outgoing pages while the others are  
still writing. Swapping _in_ you don't know what you need next until  
you resume the process, so you fault in 4k, schedule DMA, resume the  
process when it completes, fault on the next page, schedule more DMA,  
rinse repeat. Programs don't really execute linearly, so you wind up  
with round trip latency to and from device each time.

The problem with doing readahead on swapin is that programs jump around  
randomly calling a function here and a function there, so you dunno  
which other pages it'll need until it requests them. (Speculatively  
faulting in pages when the system is starved of memory usually just  
makes the memory shortage worse. This code only runs when there's a  
shortage of physical pages.)

Having an ssd just exacerbates the problem, because with the device  
itself sped up the round trip latency from all the tiny transactions  
comes to dominate.

Rob
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