From: Anton Vorontsov <anton@enomsg.org>
To: Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mhocko@suse.cz,
kmpark@infradead.org, hyunhee.kim@samsung.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] vmpressure: implement strict mode
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 11:45:47 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130628184547.GA14287@teo> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130628142558.5da3d030@redhat.com>
On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 02:25:58PM -0400, Luiz Capitulino wrote:
> > > > That's how it's expected to work, because on strict mode you're notified
> > > > for the level you registered for. So apps registering for critical, will
> > > > still be notified on critical just like before.
> > >
> > > Suppose you introduce a new level, and the system hits this level. Before,
> > > the app would receive at least some notification for the given memory load
> > > (i.e. one of the old levels), with the new level introduced in the kernel,
> > > the app will receive no events at all.
>
> That's not true. If an app registered for critical it will still get
> critical notification when the system is at the critical level. Just as it
> always did. No new events will change this.
>
> With today's semantics though, new events will change when current events
> are triggered. So each new extension will cause applications to have
> different behaviors, in different kernel versions. This looks quite
> undesirable to me.
I'll try to explain it again.
Old behaviour:
low -> event
x <- but the system is at this unnamed level, between low and med
med
crit
We add a level:
low
low-med <- system at this state, we send an event, but the old app does
not know about it, so it won't receive *any* notifications. (In
older kernels it would receive low level notification
med
crit
You really don't see a problem here?
I see the problem, and I see these solutions:
1. Use current scheme.
2. Add versioning.
3. Never change the levels (how can we know?)
Anton
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-06-28 18:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-06-27 3:17 [PATCH v2] vmpressure: implement strict mode Luiz Capitulino
2013-06-27 9:26 ` Michal Hocko
2013-06-27 13:34 ` Luiz Capitulino
2013-06-27 14:59 ` Michal Hocko
2013-06-27 15:53 ` Minchan Kim
2013-06-27 17:42 ` Michal Hocko
2013-06-27 15:44 ` Minchan Kim
2013-06-27 22:02 ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-28 0:02 ` Minchan Kim
2013-06-28 0:34 ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-28 0:58 ` Anton Vorontsov
2013-06-28 1:13 ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-28 4:34 ` Anton Vorontsov
2013-06-28 5:07 ` Anton Vorontsov
2013-06-28 14:00 ` Luiz Capitulino
2013-06-28 16:57 ` Anton Vorontsov
2013-06-28 17:09 ` Anton Vorontsov
2013-06-28 18:25 ` Luiz Capitulino
2013-06-28 18:45 ` Anton Vorontsov [this message]
2013-06-28 18:58 ` Luiz Capitulino
2013-06-28 18:45 ` Luiz Capitulino
2013-06-28 18:55 ` Anton Vorontsov
2013-06-28 19:44 ` Luiz Capitulino
2013-06-29 0:56 ` Anton Vorontsov
2013-07-01 8:22 ` Hyunhee Kim
2013-07-02 4:32 ` Anton Vorontsov
2013-07-02 8:29 ` Hyunhee Kim
2013-07-02 13:29 ` Michal Hocko
2013-07-02 14:59 ` Luiz Capitulino
2013-07-02 17:24 ` Anton Vorontsov
2013-07-02 18:38 ` Luiz Capitulino
2013-06-28 5:24 ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-28 13:43 ` Luiz Capitulino
2013-06-28 9:04 ` Minchan Kim
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