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From: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
To: Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com>
Cc: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Davidlohr Bueso <davidlohr.bueso@hp.com>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Michel Lespinasse <walken@google.com>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Konstantin Khlebnikov <khlebnikov@openvz.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>,
	"AneeshKumarK.V" <aneesh.kumar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Hillf Danton <dhillf@gmail.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm/hugetlb: per-vma instantiation mutexes
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 20:01:46 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130716100146.GC8925@voom.fritz.box> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130716053424.GB30116@lge.com>

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On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 02:34:24PM +0900, Joonsoo Kim wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 09:51:21PM -0400, Rik van Riel wrote:
> > On 07/15/2013 03:24 AM, David Gibson wrote:
> > >On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 08:16:44PM -0700, Davidlohr Bueso wrote:
> > 
> > >>>Reading the existing comment, this change looks very suspicious to me.
> > >>>A per-vma mutex is just not going to provide the necessary exclusion, is
> > >>>it?  (But I recall next to nothing about these regions and
> > >>>reservations.)
> > >
> > >A per-VMA lock is definitely wrong.  I think it handles one form of
> > >the race, between threads sharing a VM on a MAP_PRIVATE mapping.
> > >However another form of the race can and does occur between different
> > >MAP_SHARED VMAs in the same or different processes.  I think there may
> > >be edge cases involving mremap() and MAP_PRIVATE that will also be
> > >missed by a per-VMA lock.
> > >
> > >Note that the libhugetlbfs testsuite contains tests for both PRIVATE
> > >and SHARED variants of the race.
> > 
> > Can we get away with simply using a mutex in the file?
> > Say vma->vm_file->mapping->i_mmap_mutex?
> 
> I totally agree with this approach :)
> 
> > 
> > That might help with multiple processes initializing
> > multiple shared memory segments at the same time, and
> > should not hurt the case of a process mapping its own
> > hugetlbfs area.
> > 
> > It might have the potential to hurt when getting private
> > copies on a MAP_PRIVATE area, though.  I have no idea
> > how common it is for multiple processes to MAP_PRIVATE
> > the same hugetlbfs file, though...
> 
> Currently, getting private copies on a MAP_PRIVATE area is also
> serialized by hugetlb_instantiation_mutex.
> How do we get worse with your approach?
> 
> BTW, we have one race problem related to hugetlb_instantiation_mutex.
> It is not right protection for region structure handling. We map the
> area without holding a hugetlb_instantiation_mutex, so there is
> race condition between mapping a new area and faulting the other area.
> Am I missing?

The hugetlb_instantiation_mutex has nothing to do with protecting
region structures.  It exists only to address one very specific and
frequently misunderstood race.

-- 
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  reply	other threads:[~2013-07-16 10:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-07-12 23:28 [PATCH] mm/hugetlb: per-vma instantiation mutexes Davidlohr Bueso
2013-07-13  0:54 ` Hugh Dickins
2013-07-15  3:16   ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-07-15  7:24     ` David Gibson
2013-07-15 23:08       ` Andrew Morton
2013-07-16  0:12         ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-07-16  8:00           ` David Gibson
2013-07-17 19:50         ` [PATCH] hugepage: allow parallelization of the hugepage fault path Davidlohr Bueso
2013-07-18  8:42           ` Joonsoo Kim
2013-07-19  7:14             ` David Gibson
2013-07-19 21:24               ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-07-22  0:59                 ` Joonsoo Kim
2013-07-18  9:07           ` Joonsoo Kim
2013-07-19  0:19             ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-07-19  0:35               ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-07-23  7:04             ` Hush Bensen
2013-07-23  6:55           ` Hush Bensen
2013-07-16  1:51       ` [PATCH] mm/hugetlb: per-vma instantiation mutexes Rik van Riel
2013-07-16  5:34         ` Joonsoo Kim
2013-07-16 10:01           ` David Gibson [this message]
2013-07-18  6:50             ` Joonsoo Kim
2013-07-16  8:20         ` David Gibson
2013-07-15  4:18 ` Konstantin Khlebnikov

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