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From: Robin Holt <holt@sgi.com>
To: Yinghai Lu <yinghai@kernel.org>
Cc: Robin Holt <holt@sgi.com>, Sam Ben <sam.bennn@gmail.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Nate Zimmer <nzimmer@sgi.com>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>, Rob Landley <rob@landley.net>,
	Mike Travis <travis@sgi.com>,
	Daniel J Blueman <daniel@numascale-asia.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/4] Transparent on-demand struct page initialization embedded in the buddy allocator
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2013 01:13:39 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130722061339.GC3421@sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAE9FiQUnsENuMGAXgxmJq+u-NnXW4fEXR-JKww8LY_8jOfoeBA@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 04:51:49PM -0700, Yinghai Lu wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 2:30 AM, Robin Holt <holt@sgi.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 01:17:44PM +0800, Sam Ben wrote:
> >> >With this patch, we did boot a 16TiB machine.  Without the patches,
> >> >the v3.10 kernel with the same configuration took 407 seconds for
> >> >free_all_bootmem.  With the patches and operating on 2MiB pages instead
> >> >of 1GiB, it took 26 seconds so performance was improved.  I have no feel
> >> >for how the 1GiB chunk size will perform.
> >>
> >> How to test how much time spend on free_all_bootmem?
> >
> > We had put a pr_emerg at the beginning and end of free_all_bootmem and
> > then used a modified version of script which record the time in uSecs
> > at the beginning of each line of output.
> 
> used two patches, found 3TiB system will take 100s before slub is ready.
> 
> about three portions:
> 1. sparse vmemap buf allocation, it is with bootmem wrapper, so clear those
> struct page area take about 30s.
> 2. memmap_init_zone: take about 25s
> 3. mem_init/free_all_bootmem about 30s.
> 
> so still wonder why 16TiB will need hours.

I don't know where you got the figure of hours for memory initialization.
That is likely for a 32TiB boot and includes the entire boot, not just
getting the memory allocator initialized.

For a 16 TiB boot:
1) 344
2) 1151
3) 407

I hope that illustrates why we chose to address the memmap_init_zone first
which had the nice side effect of also impacting the free_all_bootmem
slowdown.

With these patches, those numbers are currently:
1) 344
2) 49
3) 26

> also your patches looks like only address 2 and 3.

Right, but I thought that was the normal way to do things.  Address
one thing at a time and work toward a better kernel.  I don't see a
relationship between the work we are doing here and the sparse vmemmap
buffer allocation.  Have I missed something?

Did you happen to time a boot with these patches applied to see how
long it took and how much impact they had on a smaller config?

Robin

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  reply	other threads:[~2013-07-22  6:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-07-12  2:03 [RFC 0/4] Transparent on-demand struct page initialization embedded in the buddy allocator Robin Holt
2013-07-12  2:03 ` [RFC 1/4] memblock: Introduce a for_each_reserved_mem_region iterator Robin Holt
2013-07-12  2:03 ` [RFC 2/4] Have __free_pages_memory() free in larger chunks Robin Holt
2013-07-12  7:45   ` Robin Holt
2013-07-13  3:08     ` Yinghai Lu
2013-07-16 13:02   ` Sam Ben
2013-07-23 15:32     ` Johannes Weiner
2013-07-12  2:03 ` [RFC 3/4] Seperate page initialization into a separate function Robin Holt
2013-07-13  3:06   ` Yinghai Lu
2013-07-15  3:19     ` Robin Holt
2013-07-12  2:03 ` [RFC 4/4] Sparse initialization of struct page array Robin Holt
2013-07-13  4:19   ` Yinghai Lu
2013-07-13  4:39     ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-07-13  5:31       ` Yinghai Lu
2013-07-13  5:38         ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-07-15 14:08         ` Nathan Zimmer
2013-07-15 17:45     ` Nathan Zimmer
2013-07-15 17:54       ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-07-15 18:26         ` Robin Holt
2013-07-15 18:29           ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-07-23  8:32             ` Ingo Molnar
2013-07-23 11:09               ` Robin Holt
2013-07-23 11:15                 ` Robin Holt
2013-07-23 11:41                   ` Robin Holt
2013-07-23 11:50                     ` Robin Holt
2013-07-16 10:26     ` Robin Holt
2013-07-25  2:25     ` Robin Holt
2013-07-25 12:50       ` Yinghai Lu
2013-07-25 13:42         ` Robin Holt
2013-07-25 13:52           ` Yinghai Lu
2013-07-15 21:30   ` Andrew Morton
2013-07-16 10:38     ` Robin Holt
2013-07-12  8:27 ` [RFC 0/4] Transparent on-demand struct page initialization embedded in the buddy allocator Ingo Molnar
2013-07-12  8:47   ` boot tracing Borislav Petkov
2013-07-12  8:53     ` Ingo Molnar
2013-07-15  1:38       ` Sam Ben
2013-07-23  8:18         ` Ingo Molnar
2013-07-12  9:19   ` [RFC 0/4] Transparent on-demand struct page initialization embedded in the buddy allocator Robert Richter
2013-07-15 15:16   ` Robin Holt
2013-07-16  8:55   ` Joonsoo Kim
2013-07-16  9:08     ` Borislav Petkov
2013-07-23  8:20       ` Ingo Molnar
2013-07-15 15:00 ` Robin Holt
2013-07-17  5:17 ` Sam Ben
2013-07-17  9:30   ` Robin Holt
2013-07-19 23:51     ` Yinghai Lu
2013-07-22  6:13       ` Robin Holt [this message]
2013-08-02 17:44 ` [RFC v2 0/5] " Nathan Zimmer
2013-08-02 17:44   ` [RFC v2 1/5] memblock: Introduce a for_each_reserved_mem_region iterator Nathan Zimmer
2013-08-02 17:44   ` [RFC v2 2/5] Have __free_pages_memory() free in larger chunks Nathan Zimmer
2013-08-02 17:44   ` [RFC v2 3/5] Move page initialization into a separate function Nathan Zimmer
2013-08-02 17:44   ` [RFC v2 4/5] Only set page reserved in the memblock region Nathan Zimmer
2013-08-03 20:04     ` Nathan Zimmer
2013-08-02 17:44   ` [RFC v2 5/5] Sparse initialization of struct page array Nathan Zimmer
2013-08-05  9:58   ` [RFC v2 0/5] Transparent on-demand struct page initialization embedded in the buddy allocator Ingo Molnar
2013-08-12 21:54   ` [RFC v3 " Nathan Zimmer
2013-08-12 21:54     ` [RFC v3 1/5] memblock: Introduce a for_each_reserved_mem_region iterator Nathan Zimmer
2013-08-12 21:54     ` [RFC v3 2/5] Have __free_pages_memory() free in larger chunks Nathan Zimmer
2013-08-12 21:54     ` [RFC v3 3/5] Move page initialization into a separate function Nathan Zimmer
2013-08-12 21:54     ` [RFC v3 4/5] Only set page reserved in the memblock region Nathan Zimmer
2013-08-12 21:54     ` [RFC v3 5/5] Sparse initialization of struct page array Nathan Zimmer
2013-08-13 10:58     ` [RFC v3 0/5] Transparent on-demand struct page initialization embedded in the buddy allocator Ingo Molnar
2013-08-13 17:09     ` Linus Torvalds
2013-08-13 17:23       ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-13 17:33       ` Mike Travis
2013-08-13 17:51         ` Linus Torvalds
2013-08-13 18:04           ` Mike Travis
2013-08-13 19:06             ` Mike Travis
2013-08-13 20:24               ` Yinghai Lu
2013-08-13 20:37                 ` Mike Travis
2013-08-13 21:35             ` Nathan Zimmer
2013-08-13 23:10           ` Nathan Zimmer
2013-08-13 23:55             ` Linus Torvalds
2013-08-14 11:27               ` Ingo Molnar
2013-08-14 11:05           ` Ingo Molnar
2013-08-14 22:15             ` Nathan Zimmer
2013-08-16 16:36     ` Dave Hansen

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