From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
Cc: Srikar Dronamraju <srikar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/18] Basic scheduler support for automatic NUMA balancing V5
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 12:36:20 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130725103620.GM27075@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1373901620-2021-1-git-send-email-mgorman@suse.de>
Subject: sched, numa: Break stuff..
From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Date: Tue Jul 23 14:58:41 CEST 2013
This patch is mostly a comment in code. I don't believe the current
scan period adjustment scheme can work properly nor do I think it a
good idea to ratelimit the numa faults as a whole based on migration.
Reasons are in the modified comments...
Signed-off-by: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
---
kernel/sched/fair.c | 41 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++---------
1 file changed, 32 insertions(+), 9 deletions(-)
--- a/kernel/sched/fair.c
+++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c
@@ -1108,7 +1108,6 @@ static void task_numa_placement(struct t
/* Preferred node as the node with the most faults */
if (max_faults && max_nid != p->numa_preferred_nid) {
- int old_migrate_seq = p->numa_migrate_seq;
/* Queue task on preferred node if possible */
p->numa_preferred_nid = max_nid;
@@ -1116,14 +1115,19 @@ static void task_numa_placement(struct t
numa_migrate_preferred(p);
/*
+ int old_migrate_seq = p->numa_migrate_seq;
+ *
* If preferred nodes changes frequently then the scan rate
* will be continually high. Mitigate this by increasing the
* scan rate only if the task was settled.
- */
+ *
+ * APZ: disabled because we don't lower it again :/
+ *
if (old_migrate_seq >= sysctl_numa_balancing_settle_count) {
p->numa_scan_period = max(p->numa_scan_period >> 1,
task_scan_min(p));
}
+ */
}
}
@@ -1167,10 +1171,20 @@ void task_numa_fault(int last_nidpid, in
/*
* If pages are properly placed (did not migrate) then scan slower.
* This is reset periodically in case of phase changes
- */
- if (!migrated)
+ *
+ * APZ: it seems to me that one can get a ton of !migrated faults;
+ * consider the scenario where two threads fight over a shared memory
+ * segment. We'll win half the faults, half of that will be local, half
+ * of that will be remote. This means we'll see 1/4-th of the total
+ * memory being !migrated. Using a fixed increment will completely
+ * flatten the scan speed for a sufficiently large workload. Another
+ * scenario is due to that migration rate limit.
+ *
+ if (!migrated) {
p->numa_scan_period = min(p->numa_scan_period_max,
p->numa_scan_period + jiffies_to_msecs(10));
+ }
+ */
task_numa_placement(p);
@@ -1216,12 +1230,15 @@ void task_numa_work(struct callback_head
if (p->flags & PF_EXITING)
return;
+#if 0
/*
* We do not care about task placement until a task runs on a node
* other than the first one used by the address space. This is
* largely because migrations are driven by what CPU the task
* is running on. If it's never scheduled on another node, it'll
* not migrate so why bother trapping the fault.
+ *
+ * APZ: seems like a bad idea for pure shared memory workloads.
*/
if (mm->first_nid == NUMA_PTE_SCAN_INIT)
mm->first_nid = numa_node_id();
@@ -1233,6 +1250,7 @@ void task_numa_work(struct callback_head
mm->first_nid = NUMA_PTE_SCAN_ACTIVE;
}
+#endif
/*
* Enforce maximal scan/migration frequency..
@@ -1254,9 +1272,14 @@ void task_numa_work(struct callback_head
* Do not set pte_numa if the current running node is rate-limited.
* This loses statistics on the fault but if we are unwilling to
* migrate to this node, it is less likely we can do useful work
- */
+ *
+ * APZ: seems like a bad idea; even if this node can't migrate anymore
+ * other nodes might and we want up-to-date information to do balance
+ * decisions.
+ *
if (migrate_ratelimited(numa_node_id()))
return;
+ */
start = mm->numa_scan_offset;
pages = sysctl_numa_balancing_scan_size;
@@ -1297,10 +1320,10 @@ void task_numa_work(struct callback_head
out:
/*
- * It is possible to reach the end of the VMA list but the last few VMAs are
- * not guaranteed to the vma_migratable. If they are not, we would find the
- * !migratable VMA on the next scan but not reset the scanner to the start
- * so check it now.
+ * It is possible to reach the end of the VMA list but the last few
+ * VMAs are not guaranteed to the vma_migratable. If they are not, we
+ * would find the !migratable VMA on the next scan but not reset the
+ * scanner to the start so check it now.
*/
if (vma)
mm->numa_scan_offset = start;
--
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Thread overview: 102+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-07-15 15:20 [PATCH 0/18] Basic scheduler support for automatic NUMA balancing V5 Mel Gorman
2013-07-15 15:20 ` [PATCH 01/18] mm: numa: Document automatic NUMA balancing sysctls Mel Gorman
2013-07-15 15:20 ` [PATCH 02/18] sched: Track NUMA hinting faults on per-node basis Mel Gorman
2013-07-17 10:50 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-07-31 7:54 ` Mel Gorman
2013-07-29 10:10 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-07-31 7:54 ` Mel Gorman
2013-07-15 15:20 ` [PATCH 03/18] mm: numa: Account for THP numa hinting faults on the correct node Mel Gorman
2013-07-17 0:33 ` Hillf Danton
2013-07-17 1:26 ` Wanpeng Li
2013-07-17 1:26 ` Wanpeng Li
2013-07-15 15:20 ` [PATCH 04/18] mm: numa: Do not migrate or account for hinting faults on the zero page Mel Gorman
2013-07-17 11:00 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-07-31 8:11 ` Mel Gorman
2013-07-15 15:20 ` [PATCH 05/18] sched: Select a preferred node with the most numa hinting faults Mel Gorman
2013-07-15 15:20 ` [PATCH 06/18] sched: Update NUMA hinting faults once per scan Mel Gorman
2013-07-15 15:20 ` [PATCH 07/18] sched: Favour moving tasks towards the preferred node Mel Gorman
2013-07-25 10:40 ` [PATCH] sched, numa: migrates_degrades_locality() Peter Zijlstra
2013-07-31 8:44 ` Mel Gorman
2013-07-31 8:50 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-07-15 15:20 ` [PATCH 08/18] sched: Reschedule task on preferred NUMA node once selected Mel Gorman
2013-07-17 1:31 ` Hillf Danton
2013-07-31 9:07 ` Mel Gorman
2013-07-31 9:38 ` Srikar Dronamraju
2013-08-01 4:47 ` Srikar Dronamraju
2013-08-01 15:38 ` Mel Gorman
2013-07-15 15:20 ` [PATCH 09/18] sched: Add infrastructure for split shared/private accounting of NUMA hinting faults Mel Gorman
2013-07-17 2:17 ` Hillf Danton
2013-07-31 9:08 ` Mel Gorman
2013-07-15 15:20 ` [PATCH 10/18] sched: Increase NUMA PTE scanning when a new preferred node is selected Mel Gorman
2013-07-15 15:20 ` [PATCH 11/18] sched: Check current->mm before allocating NUMA faults Mel Gorman
2013-07-15 15:20 ` [PATCH 12/18] sched: Set the scan rate proportional to the size of the task being scanned Mel Gorman
2013-07-15 15:20 ` [PATCH 13/18] mm: numa: Scan pages with elevated page_mapcount Mel Gorman
2013-07-17 5:22 ` Sam Ben
2013-07-31 9:13 ` Mel Gorman
2013-07-15 15:20 ` [PATCH 14/18] sched: Remove check that skips small VMAs Mel Gorman
2013-07-15 15:20 ` [PATCH 15/18] sched: Set preferred NUMA node based on number of private faults Mel Gorman
2013-07-18 1:53 ` [PATCH 15/18] fix compilation with !CONFIG_NUMA_BALANCING Rik van Riel
2013-07-31 9:19 ` Mel Gorman
2013-07-26 11:20 ` [PATCH 15/18] sched: Set preferred NUMA node based on number of private faults Peter Zijlstra
2013-07-31 9:29 ` Mel Gorman
2013-07-31 9:34 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-07-31 10:10 ` Mel Gorman
2013-07-15 15:20 ` [PATCH 16/18] sched: Avoid overloading CPUs on a preferred NUMA node Mel Gorman
2013-07-15 20:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-07-16 8:23 ` Mel Gorman
2013-07-16 10:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-07-16 15:55 ` Hillf Danton
2013-07-16 16:01 ` Mel Gorman
2013-07-17 10:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-07-31 9:49 ` Mel Gorman
2013-08-01 7:10 ` Srikar Dronamraju
2013-08-01 15:42 ` Mel Gorman
2013-07-15 15:20 ` [PATCH 17/18] sched: Retry migration of tasks to CPU on a preferred node Mel Gorman
2013-07-25 10:33 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-07-31 10:03 ` Mel Gorman
2013-07-31 10:05 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-07-31 10:07 ` Mel Gorman
2013-07-25 10:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-08-01 5:13 ` Srikar Dronamraju
2013-08-01 15:46 ` Mel Gorman
2013-07-15 15:20 ` [PATCH 18/18] sched: Swap tasks when reschuling if a CPU on a target node is imbalanced Mel Gorman
2013-07-15 20:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-07-16 9:41 ` Mel Gorman
2013-08-01 4:59 ` Srikar Dronamraju
2013-08-01 15:48 ` Mel Gorman
2013-07-15 20:14 ` [PATCH 0/18] Basic scheduler support for automatic NUMA balancing V5 Peter Zijlstra
2013-07-16 15:10 ` Srikar Dronamraju
2013-07-25 10:36 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2013-07-31 10:30 ` Mel Gorman
2013-07-31 10:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-07-31 11:57 ` Mel Gorman
2013-07-31 15:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-07-31 16:11 ` Mel Gorman
2013-07-31 16:39 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-08-01 15:51 ` Mel Gorman
2013-07-25 10:38 ` [PATCH] mm, numa: Sanitize task_numa_fault() callsites Peter Zijlstra
2013-07-31 11:25 ` Mel Gorman
2013-07-25 10:41 ` [PATCH] sched, numa: Improve scanner Peter Zijlstra
2013-07-25 10:46 ` [PATCH] mm, sched, numa: Create a per-task MPOL_INTERLEAVE policy Peter Zijlstra
2013-07-26 9:55 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-08-26 16:10 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-08-26 16:14 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-07-30 11:24 ` [PATCH] mm, numa: Change page last {nid,pid} into {cpu,pid} Peter Zijlstra
2013-08-01 22:33 ` Rik van Riel
2013-07-30 11:38 ` [PATCH] sched, numa: Use {cpu, pid} to create task groups for shared faults Peter Zijlstra
2013-07-31 15:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-07-31 15:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-07-31 15:45 ` Don Morris
2013-07-31 16:05 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-08-02 16:47 ` [PATCH -v3] " Peter Zijlstra
2013-08-02 16:50 ` [PATCH] mm, numa: Do not group on RO pages Peter Zijlstra
2013-08-02 19:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-08-05 19:36 ` [PATCH] numa,sched: use group fault statistics in numa placement Rik van Riel
2013-08-09 13:55 ` Don Morris
2013-08-28 16:41 ` [PATCH -v3] sched, numa: Use {cpu, pid} to create task groups for shared faults Peter Zijlstra
2013-08-28 17:10 ` Rik van Riel
2013-08-01 6:23 ` [PATCH,RFC] numa,sched: use group fault statistics in numa placement Rik van Riel
2013-08-01 10:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-08-01 16:35 ` Rik van Riel
2013-08-01 22:36 ` [RFC PATCH -v2] " Rik van Riel
2013-07-30 13:58 ` [PATCH 0/18] Basic scheduler support for automatic NUMA balancing V5 Andrew Theurer
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