From: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
To: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Cc: Lisa Du <cldu@marvell.com>,
"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@gmail.com>,
Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>, Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
Bob Liu <lliubbo@gmail.com>, Neil Zhang <zhangwm@marvell.com>,
Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [resend] [PATCH] mm: vmscan: fix do_try_to_free_pages() livelock
Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2013 14:02:34 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130805050234.GO32486@bbox> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130805045343.GD23319@cmpxchg.org>
On Mon, Aug 05, 2013 at 12:53:43AM -0400, Johannes Weiner wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 04, 2013 at 07:26:38PM -0700, Lisa Du wrote:
> > From: Lisa Du <cldu@marvell.com>
> > Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2013 09:26:57 +0800
> > Subject: [PATCH] mm: vmscan: fix do_try_to_free_pages() livelock
> >
> > This patch is based on KOSAKI's work and I add a little more
> > description, please refer https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/6/14/74.
> >
> > Currently, I found system can enter a state that there are lots
> > of free pages in a zone but only order-0 and order-1 pages which
> > means the zone is heavily fragmented, then high order allocation
> > could make direct reclaim path's long stall(ex, 60 seconds)
> > especially in no swap and no compaciton enviroment. This problem
> > happened on v3.4, but it seems issue still lives in current tree,
> > the reason is do_try_to_free_pages enter live lock:
> >
> > kswapd will go to sleep if the zones have been fully scanned
> > and are still not balanced. As kswapd thinks there's little point
> > trying all over again to avoid infinite loop. Instead it changes
> > order from high-order to 0-order because kswapd think order-0 is the
> > most important. Look at 73ce02e9 in detail. If watermarks are ok,
> > kswapd will go back to sleep and may leave zone->all_unreclaimable = 0.
> > It assume high-order users can still perform direct reclaim if they wish.
> >
> > Direct reclaim continue to reclaim for a high order which is not a
> > COSTLY_ORDER without oom-killer until kswapd turn on zone->all_unreclaimble.
> > This is because to avoid too early oom-kill. So it means direct_reclaim
> > depends on kswapd to break this loop.
> >
> > In worst case, direct-reclaim may continue to page reclaim forever
> > when kswapd sleeps forever until someone like watchdog detect and finally
> > kill the process. As described in:
> > http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.mm/103737
> >
> > We can't turn on zone->all_unreclaimable from direct reclaim path
> > because direct reclaim path don't take any lock and this way is racy.
> > Thus this patch removes zone->all_unreclaimable field completely and
> > recalculates zone reclaimable state every time.
> >
> > Note: we can't take the idea that direct-reclaim see zone->pages_scanned
> > directly and kswapd continue to use zone->all_unreclaimable. Because, it
> > is racy. commit 929bea7c71 (vmscan: all_unreclaimable() use
> > zone->all_unreclaimable as a name) describes the detail.
> >
> > Change-Id: If3b44e33e400c1db0e42a5e2fc9ebc7a265f2aae
> > Cc: Aaditya Kumar <aaditya.kumar.30@gmail.com>
> > Cc: Ying Han <yinghan@google.com>
> > Cc: Nick Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>
> > Acked-by: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
> > Cc: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>
> > Cc: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
> > Cc: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>
> > Cc: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
> > Cc: Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>
> > Cc: Bob Liu <lliubbo@gmail.com>
> > Cc: Neil Zhang <zhangwm@marvell.com>
> > Signed-off-by: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
> > Signed-off-by: Lisa Du <cldu@marvell.com>
>
> Wow, the original patch is over a year old. As before:
>
> Acked-by: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
>
> One comment:
>
> > @@ -2244,8 +2244,8 @@ static bool shrink_zones(struct zonelist *zonelist, struct scan_control *sc)
> > if (global_reclaim(sc)) {
> > if (!cpuset_zone_allowed_hardwall(zone, GFP_KERNEL))
> > continue;
> > - if (zone->all_unreclaimable &&
> > - sc->priority != DEF_PRIORITY)
> > + if (!zone_reclaimable(zone) &&
> > + sc->priority != DEF_PRIORITY)
> > continue; /* Let kswapd poll it */
> > if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_COMPACTION)) {
> > /*
>
> As Michal pointed out last time, it would make sense to reorder these
> checks because the priority test is much lighter than calculating the
> reclaimable pages. Would make DEF_PRIORITY cycles slightly lighter.
>
> It's not necessarily about the performance but if we leave it like
> this there will be boring patches in the future that change it to do
> the light-weight check first, claiming it will improve performance,
> and then somebody else will ask them for benchmark results and they
> will ask how page reclaim is usually benchmarked and everybody will
> shrug their shoulders and go "good question" until somebody blames
> memory cgroups.
>
> So, please, save us from all this drama and reorder the checks.
+1
I don't want to pay my money for soap opera.
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Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-08-05 2:26 [resend] [PATCH] mm: vmscan: fix do_try_to_free_pages() livelock Lisa Du
2013-08-05 2:56 ` Minchan Kim
2013-08-05 4:53 ` Johannes Weiner
2013-08-05 5:02 ` Minchan Kim [this message]
2013-08-05 7:41 ` Michal Hocko
2013-08-06 9:23 ` [resend] [PATCH V2] " Lisa Du
2013-08-06 10:35 ` Michal Hocko
2013-08-07 1:42 ` Lisa Du
2013-08-08 18:14 ` Johannes Weiner
2013-08-12 1:46 ` [resend] [PATCH V3] " Lisa Du
2013-08-20 22:16 ` Andrew Morton
2013-08-22 5:24 ` Lisa Du
2013-08-22 6:24 ` Minchan Kim
2013-08-22 7:14 ` Lisa Du
2013-08-27 19:43 ` Andrew Morton
2013-08-28 1:58 ` Lisa Du
2013-08-19 8:19 ` Lisa Du
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2012-06-14 8:13 [resend][PATCH] mm, " kosaki.motohiro
2012-06-14 8:43 ` Johannes Weiner
2012-06-14 8:51 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-06-14 14:57 ` Minchan Kim
2012-06-14 16:10 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-06-15 7:27 ` Minchan Kim
2012-06-15 12:31 ` Hillf Danton
2012-06-19 21:17 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-06-16 17:48 ` Aaditya Kumar
2012-06-18 0:43 ` Minchan Kim
2012-06-18 0:52 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-06-19 13:18 ` Aaditya Kumar
2012-06-19 22:17 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-06-20 6:18 ` Minchan Kim
2012-06-14 15:25 ` Michal Hocko
2012-06-14 15:46 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-06-15 10:45 ` Mel Gorman
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