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From: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
To: Davidlohr Bueso <davidlohr@hp.com>
Cc: Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>,
	"Aneesh Kumar K.V" <aneesh.kumar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Davidlohr Bueso <davidlohr.bueso@hp.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Wanpeng Li <liwanp@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Naoya Horiguchi <n-horiguchi@ah.jp.nec.com>,
	Hillf Danton <dhillf@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 17/18] mm, hugetlb: retry if we fail to allocate a hugepage with use_reserve
Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2013 11:03:12 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130807010312.GA17110@voom.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1375834724.2134.49.camel@buesod1.americas.hpqcorp.net>

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On Tue, Aug 06, 2013 at 05:18:44PM -0700, Davidlohr Bueso wrote:
> On Mon, 2013-08-05 at 16:36 +0900, Joonsoo Kim wrote:
> > > Any mapping that doesn't use the reserved pool, not just
> > > MAP_NORESERVE.  For example, if a process makes a MAP_PRIVATE mapping,
> > > then fork()s then the mapping is instantiated in the child, that will
> > > not draw from the reserved pool.
> > > 
> > > > Should we ensure them to allocate the last hugepage?
> > > > They map a region with MAP_NORESERVE, so don't assume that their requests
> > > > always succeed.
> > > 
> > > If the pages are available, people get cranky if it fails for no
> > > apparent reason, MAP_NORESERVE or not.  They get especially cranky if
> > > it sometimes fails and sometimes doesn't due to a race condition.
> > 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > Hmm... Okay. I will try to implement another way to protect race condition.
> > Maybe it is the best to use a table mutex :)
> > Anyway, please give me a time, guys.
> 
> So another option is to take the mutex table patchset for now as it
> *does* improve things a great deal, then, when ready, get rid of the
> instantiation lock all together.

We still don't have a solid proposal for doing that. Joonsoo Kim's
patchset misses cases (non reserved mappings).  I'm also not certain
there aren't a few edge cases which can lead to even reserved mappings
failing, and if that happens the patches will lead to livelock.

Getting rid of the instantiation mutex is a lot harder than it appears.

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  reply	other threads:[~2013-08-07  1:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-07-29  5:31 [PATCH 00/18] mm, hugetlb: remove a hugetlb_instantiation_mutex Joonsoo Kim
2013-07-29  5:31 ` [PATCH 01/18] mm, hugetlb: protect reserved pages when softofflining requests the pages Joonsoo Kim
2013-07-29  7:24   ` Hillf Danton
2013-07-31  2:27     ` Joonsoo Kim
2013-07-31  2:49       ` Hillf Danton
2013-07-31  4:41         ` Joonsoo Kim
2013-07-31  6:21           ` Hillf Danton
2013-07-31  6:37             ` Joonsoo Kim
2013-07-31 15:25               ` Hillf Danton
2013-08-01  6:07                 ` Joonsoo Kim
2013-08-01 16:17                 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2013-08-04  5:10                   ` Hillf Danton
2013-08-05  5:17                     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2013-07-30 16:49   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2013-07-29  5:31 ` [PATCH 02/18] mm, hugetlb: change variable name reservations to resv Joonsoo Kim
2013-07-30 16:50   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2013-07-29  5:31 ` [PATCH 03/18] mm, hugetlb: unify region structure handling Joonsoo Kim
2013-07-30 17:27   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2013-07-31  2:36     ` Joonsoo Kim
2013-07-29  5:31 ` [PATCH 04/18] mm, hugetlb: region manipulation functions take resv_map rather list_head Joonsoo Kim
2013-07-29  5:31 ` [PATCH 05/18] mm, hugetlb: protect region tracking via newly introduced resv_map lock Joonsoo Kim
2013-07-29  8:58   ` Hillf Danton
2013-07-31  2:41     ` Joonsoo Kim
2013-07-29 18:53   ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-07-31  2:43     ` Joonsoo Kim
2013-07-29  5:31 ` [PATCH 06/18] mm, hugetlb: remove vma_need_reservation() Joonsoo Kim
2013-07-29 17:52   ` Naoya Horiguchi
2013-07-31  4:53     ` Joonsoo Kim
2013-07-30 17:49   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2013-07-31  4:56     ` Joonsoo Kim
2013-07-29  5:31 ` [PATCH 07/18] mm, hugetlb: pass has_reserve to dequeue_huge_page_vma() Joonsoo Kim
2013-07-29  5:31 ` [PATCH 08/18] mm, hugetlb: do hugepage_subpool_get_pages() when avoid_reserve Joonsoo Kim
2013-07-29 18:05   ` Naoya Horiguchi
2013-07-31  5:02     ` Joonsoo Kim
2013-07-31 20:55       ` Naoya Horiguchi
2013-07-29  5:32 ` [PATCH 09/18] mm, hugetlb: unify has_reserve and avoid_reserve to use_reserve Joonsoo Kim
2013-07-29  5:32 ` [PATCH 10/18] mm, hugetlb: call vma_has_reserve() before entering alloc_huge_page() Joonsoo Kim
2013-07-29 18:27   ` Naoya Horiguchi
2013-07-31  5:06     ` Joonsoo Kim
2013-07-29  5:32 ` [PATCH 11/18] mm, hugetlb: move down outside_reserve check Joonsoo Kim
2013-07-29 18:39   ` Naoya Horiguchi
2013-07-31  5:08     ` Joonsoo Kim
2013-07-31 20:46       ` Naoya Horiguchi
2013-07-29  5:32 ` [PATCH 12/18] mm, hugetlb: remove a check for return value of alloc_huge_page() Joonsoo Kim
2013-07-29  5:32 ` [PATCH 13/18] mm, hugetlb: grab a page_table_lock after page_cache_release Joonsoo Kim
2013-07-29 18:50   ` Naoya Horiguchi
2013-07-29  5:32 ` [PATCH 14/18] mm, hugetlb: clean-up error handling in hugetlb_cow() Joonsoo Kim
2013-07-29  5:32 ` [PATCH 15/18] mm, hugetlb: move up anon_vma_prepare() Joonsoo Kim
2013-07-29 19:05   ` Naoya Horiguchi
2013-07-29 19:19     ` Naoya Horiguchi
2013-07-31  5:12       ` Joonsoo Kim
2013-07-31 16:43         ` Naoya Horiguchi
2013-07-29  5:32 ` [PATCH 16/18] mm, hugetlb: return a reserved page to a reserved pool if failed Joonsoo Kim
2013-07-29 20:19   ` Naoya Horiguchi
2013-07-31  5:21     ` Joonsoo Kim
2013-07-29  5:32 ` [PATCH 17/18] mm, hugetlb: retry if we fail to allocate a hugepage with use_reserve Joonsoo Kim
2013-07-29  7:28   ` David Gibson
2013-07-31  5:37     ` Joonsoo Kim
2013-08-03 10:43       ` David Gibson
2013-08-05  7:36         ` Joonsoo Kim
2013-08-07  0:18           ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-08-07  1:03             ` David Gibson [this message]
2013-08-07  1:38               ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-08-07  9:18                 ` Joonsoo Kim
2013-08-09  0:02                   ` David Gibson
2013-08-09  9:37                     ` Joonsoo Kim
2013-07-29  5:32 ` [PATCH 18/18] mm, hugetlb: remove a hugetlb_instantiation_mutex Joonsoo Kim

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