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From: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
To: Benjamin LaHaise <bcrl@kvack.org>
Cc: Krzysztof Kozlowski <k.kozlowski@samsung.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Seth Jennings <sjenning@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	guz.fnst@cn.fujitsu.com, Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	lliubbo@gmail.com, aquini@redhat.com,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Tomasz Stanislawski <t.stanislaws@samsung.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/3] Pin page control subsystem
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 09:08:50 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130814000850.GB2271@bbox> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130813142338.GD13330@kvack.org>

Hello Benjamin,

On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 10:23:38AM -0400, Benjamin LaHaise wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 11:46:42AM +0200, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
> > Hi Minchan,
> > 
> > On wto, 2013-08-13 at 16:04 +0900, Minchan Kim wrote:
> > > patch 2 introduce pinpage control
> > > subsystem. So, subsystems want to control pinpage should implement own
> > > pinpage_xxx functions because each subsystem would have other character
> > > so what kinds of data structure for managing pinpage information depends
> > > on them. Otherwise, they can use general functions defined in pinpage
> > > subsystem. patch 3 hacks migration.c so that migration is
> > > aware of pinpage now and migrate them with pinpage subsystem.
> > 
> > I wonder why don't we use page->mapping and a_ops? Is there any
> > disadvantage of such mapping/a_ops?
> 
> That's what the pending aio patches do, and I think this is a better 
> approach for those use-cases that the technique works for.

I saw your implementation roughly and I think it's not a generic solution.
How could it handle the example mentioned in reply of Krzysztof?

> 
> The biggest problem I see with the pinpage approach is that it's based on a
> single page at a time.  I'd venture a guess that many pinned pages are done 
> in groups of pages, not single ones.

In case of z* family, most of allocation is single but I agree many GUP users
would allocate groups of pages. Then, we can cover it by expanding the API
like this.

int set_pinpage(struct pinpage_system *psys, struct page **pages,
                unsigned long nr_pages, void **privates);

so we can handle it by batch and the subsystem can manage pinpage_info with
interval tree rather than radix tree which is default.
That's why pinpage control subsystem has room for subsystem specific metadata
handling.

> 
> 		-ben
> 
> > Best regards,
> > Krzysztof
> 
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  reply	other threads:[~2013-08-14  0:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-08-13  7:04 [RFC 0/3] Pin page control subsystem Minchan Kim
2013-08-13  7:05 ` [RFC 1/3] mm: Introduce new page flag Minchan Kim
2013-08-13  7:05 ` [RFC 2/3] pinpage control subsystem Minchan Kim
2013-08-13  7:05 ` [RFC 3/3] mm: migrate pinned page Minchan Kim
2013-08-13  9:46 ` [RFC 0/3] Pin page control subsystem Krzysztof Kozlowski
2013-08-13 14:23   ` Benjamin LaHaise
2013-08-14  0:08     ` Minchan Kim [this message]
2013-08-13 23:54   ` Minchan Kim
2013-08-13 16:21 ` Christoph Lameter
2013-08-14  0:12   ` Minchan Kim
2013-08-14 16:36     ` Christoph Lameter
2013-08-14 16:47       ` Minchan Kim
2013-08-14 16:58         ` Christoph Lameter
2013-08-15  4:48           ` Minchan Kim
2013-08-15 15:18             ` Christoph Lameter

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