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From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@gmail.com>
Cc: Tang Chen <imtangchen@gmail.com>,
	Tang Chen <tangchen@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	robert.moore@intel.com, lv.zheng@intel.com, rjw@sisk.pl,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH part5 0/7] Arrange hotpluggable memory as ZONE_MOVABLE.
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 21:33:46 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130815013346.GR28628@htj.dyndns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130815012133.GQ28628@htj.dyndns.org>

On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 09:21:33PM -0400, Tejun Heo wrote:
> > Secondly, memory hotplug is now maintained I and kamezawa-san. Then, I much likely
> > have a chance to get a hotplug related bug report. For protecting my life, I don't
> > want get a false bug claim. Then, I wouldn't like to aim incomplete fallback. When
> > an admin makes mistake, they should shoot their foot, not me!
> 
> Dude, it's not cool to cause users' machine to fail boot because you
> want bug report.  You don't do that.  There are other ways to achieve
> that.  When the kernel can't make all hotpluggable nodes hotpluggable
> (I mean, it's not necessarily node aligned to begin with), generate
> warning and a debug dump with appropriate log levels.
> 
> If you think causing users' machine fail boot indetermistically is
> acceptable, you really shouldn't be maintaining anything.  What is
> this?  Are you nuts?

This is doubly idiotic because this is all early boot.  Most users
don't even have a way to access the debug info if the machine crashes
that early.  Developement convenience is something that we consider
too but, seriously, users come first.  This is not your personal
playground.  Don't frigging crash if you have any other option.

-- 
tejun

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  reply	other threads:[~2013-08-15  1:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-08-08 10:16 [PATCH part5 0/7] Arrange hotpluggable memory as ZONE_MOVABLE Tang Chen
2013-08-08 10:16 ` [PATCH part5 1/7] x86: get pg_data_t's memory from other node Tang Chen
2013-08-12 14:39   ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-12 15:12     ` Tang Chen
2013-08-08 10:16 ` [PATCH part5 2/7] x86, numa, mem_hotplug: Skip all the regions the kernel resides in Tang Chen
2013-08-08 10:16 ` [PATCH part5 3/7] memblock, numa: Introduce flag into memblock Tang Chen
2013-08-08 10:16 ` [PATCH part5 4/7] memblock, mem_hotplug: Introduce MEMBLOCK_HOTPLUG flag to mark hotpluggable regions Tang Chen
2013-08-08 10:16 ` [PATCH part5 5/7] memblock, mem_hotplug: Make memblock skip hotpluggable regions by default Tang Chen
2013-08-14 21:54   ` Naoya Horiguchi
2013-08-15  5:15     ` Tang Chen
2013-08-08 10:16 ` [PATCH part5 6/7] mem-hotplug: Introduce movablenode boot option to {en|dis}able using SRAT Tang Chen
2013-08-08 10:16 ` [PATCH part5 7/7] x86, numa, acpi, memory-hotplug: Make movablenode have higher priority Tang Chen
2013-08-09 16:32 ` [PATCH part5 0/7] Arrange hotpluggable memory as ZONE_MOVABLE Tejun Heo
2013-08-12  6:33   ` Tang Chen
2013-08-12  8:54   ` Tang Chen
2013-08-12 14:50 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-12 15:14   ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-12 15:23     ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-12 16:29       ` Tang Chen
2013-08-12 16:46         ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-12 18:23           ` Tang Chen
2013-08-12 20:20             ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-12 20:49               ` Luck, Tony
2013-08-12 20:54                 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-12 20:57                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-12 21:06                     ` Yinghai Lu
2013-08-12 21:08                       ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-12 21:12                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-12 21:14                           ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-12 21:11                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-12 21:11                   ` Luck, Tony
2013-08-12 21:25                     ` Yinghai Lu
2013-08-12 21:28                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-13  5:14                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-13  6:14           ` Tang Chen
2013-08-13  9:56             ` Tang Chen
2013-08-13 14:38               ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-13 22:33               ` Yinghai Lu
2013-08-14  1:22                 ` Tang Chen
2013-08-15 19:06                   ` Toshi Kani
2013-08-15 20:28                     ` Yinghai Lu
2013-08-16  2:08                       ` Tang Chen
2013-08-16  4:21                         ` Yinghai Lu
2013-08-19  3:07                           ` Tang Chen
2013-08-19  3:28                             ` Yinghai Lu
2013-08-15  8:42                 ` Tang Chen
2013-08-15 12:19                   ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-15 12:44                     ` Tang Chen
2013-08-15 12:49                       ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-15 12:52                         ` Tang Chen
2013-08-15 14:37                       ` Yinghai Lu
2013-08-15 14:45                         ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-15 15:05                           ` Yinghai Lu
2013-08-15 15:10                             ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-15 19:49                               ` Toshi Kani
2013-08-15 19:08                             ` Luck, Tony
2013-08-15 19:34                               ` Yinghai Lu
2013-08-15 14:35                   ` Yinghai Lu
2013-08-16  1:16                     ` Tang Chen
2013-08-12 15:41   ` Tang Chen
2013-08-12 15:46     ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-12 16:19       ` Tang Chen
2013-08-12 16:22         ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-12 17:01           ` Tang Chen
2013-08-12 17:23             ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-14 18:22               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-08-12 18:07             ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-14 18:15               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-08-14 18:23                 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-14 19:40                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-08-14 19:55                     ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-14 20:29                       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-08-14 20:30                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-14 20:35                         ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-14 21:17                           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-08-14 21:36                             ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-15  1:08                               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-08-15  1:21                                 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-15  1:33                                   ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2013-08-15  1:44                                     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-08-15  2:22                                       ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-15  1:38                                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-08-15  1:51                                     ` Tejun Heo

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