From: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
To: Colin Cross <ccross@android.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] mm: add a field to store names for private anonymous memory
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2013 09:33:47 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131016003347.GC13007@bbox> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1381800678-16515-2-git-send-email-ccross@android.com>
Hello,
On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 06:31:17PM -0700, Colin Cross wrote:
> In many userspace applications, and especially in VM based
> applications like Android uses heavily, there are multiple different
> allocators in use. At a minimum there is libc malloc and the stack,
> and in many cases there are libc malloc, the stack, direct syscalls to
> mmap anonymous memory, and multiple VM heaps (one for small objects,
> one for big objects, etc.). Each of these layers usually has its own
> tools to inspect its usage; malloc by compiling a debug version, the
> VM through heap inspection tools, and for direct syscalls there is
> usually no way to track them.
>
> On Android we heavily use a set of tools that use an extended version
> of the logic covered in Documentation/vm/pagemap.txt to walk all pages
> mapped in userspace and slice their usage by process, shared (COW) vs.
> unique mappings, backing, etc. This can account for real physical
> memory usage even in cases like fork without exec (which Android uses
> heavily to share as many private COW pages as possible between
> processes), Kernel SamePage Merging, and clean zero pages. It
> produces a measurement of the pages that only exist in that process
> (USS, for unique), and a measurement of the physical memory usage of
> that process with the cost of shared pages being evenly split between
> processes that share them (PSS).
>
> If all anonymous memory is indistinguishable then figuring out the
> real physical memory usage (PSS) of each heap requires either a pagemap
> walking tool that can understand the heap debugging of every layer, or
> for every layer's heap debugging tools to implement the pagemap
> walking logic, in which case it is hard to get a consistent view of
> memory across the whole system.
>
> This patch adds a field to /proc/pid/maps and /proc/pid/smaps to
> show a userspace-provided name for anonymous vmas. The names of
> named anonymous vmas are shown in /proc/pid/maps and /proc/pid/smaps
> as [anon:<name>].
>
> Userspace can set the name for a region of memory by calling
> prctl(PR_SET_VMA, PR_SET_VMA_ANON_NAME, start, len, (unsigned long)name);
> Setting the name to NULL clears it.
>
> The name is stored in a user pointer in the shared union in
> vm_area_struct that points to a null terminated string inside
> the user process. vmas that point to the same address and are
> otherwise mergeable will be merged, but vmas that point to
> equivalent strings at different addresses will not be merged.
>
> The idea to store a userspace pointer to reduce the complexity
> within mm (at the expense of the complexity of reading
> /proc/pid/mem) came from Dave Hansen. This results in no
> runtime overhead in the mm subsystem other than comparing
> the anon_name pointers when considering vma merging. The pointer
> is stored in a union with fields that are only used on file-backed
> mappings, so it does not increase memory usage.
I'm not against this idea although I don't have review it in detail
but we need description to convince why it's hard to be done in
userspace.
I guess this feature would be used with allocators tightly
so my concern of kernel approach like this that it needs mmap_sem
write-side lock to split/merge vmas which is really thing
allocators(ex, tcmalloc, jemalloc) want to avoid for performance win
that allocators have lots of complicated logic to avoid munmap which
needs mmap_sem write-side lock but this feature would make it invalid.
--
Kind regards,
Minchan Kim
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-10-16 0:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-10-15 1:31 [PATCHv3 1/2] mm: rearrange madvise code to allow for reuse Colin Cross
2013-10-15 1:31 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm: add a field to store names for private anonymous memory Colin Cross
2013-10-15 21:21 ` Andrew Morton
2013-10-15 21:32 ` Dave Hansen
2013-10-15 21:47 ` Colin Cross
2013-10-16 0:33 ` Minchan Kim [this message]
2013-10-16 20:00 ` Colin Cross
2013-10-16 20:34 ` Dave Hansen
2013-10-16 20:41 ` Colin Cross
2013-10-17 2:47 ` Minchan Kim
2013-10-30 21:15 ` Colin Cross
2013-11-01 1:30 ` Minchan Kim
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2013-07-12 2:34 [PATCH 1/2] mm: rearrange madvise code to allow for reuse Colin Cross
2013-07-12 2:34 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm: add a field to store names for private anonymous memory Colin Cross
2013-07-12 5:39 ` Pekka Enberg
2013-07-12 8:13 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-07-12 8:17 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-07-12 8:44 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-07-12 8:55 ` Pekka Enberg
2013-07-12 9:00 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-07-12 9:15 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-07-12 9:27 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-07-12 9:40 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-07-12 9:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-07-12 10:01 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-07-12 20:51 ` Colin Cross
2013-09-26 1:24 ` Colin Cross
2013-07-12 8:21 ` Pekka Enberg
2013-07-12 8:55 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-07-12 9:04 ` Pekka Enberg
2013-07-12 9:14 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-07-12 9:28 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-07-12 9:26 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-07-12 9:38 ` Pekka Enberg
2013-07-12 9:45 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-07-12 10:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-07-12 5:43 ` Pekka Enberg
2013-07-12 6:18 ` Colin Cross
2013-07-12 7:03 ` Pekka Enberg
2013-07-12 6:36 ` Dave Hansen
2013-07-12 6:42 ` Colin Cross
2013-07-14 14:11 ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-07-14 19:27 ` Colin Cross
2013-07-14 14:17 ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-07-14 19:34 ` Colin Cross
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