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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Davidlohr Bueso <davidlohr@hp.com>
Cc: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Michel Lespinasse <walken@google.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>,
	aswin@hp.com, linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Russell King <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	Richard Kuo <rkuo@codeaurora.org>,
	Ralf Baechle <ralf@linux-mips.org>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>,
	Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com>,
	Paul Mundt <lethal@linux-sh.org>,
	Chris Metcalf <cmetcalf@tilera.com>,
	Jeff Dike <jdike@addtoit.com>,
	Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/3] x86/vdso: Optimize setup_additional_pages()
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 07:27:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131021052731.GA14476@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1382327556.2402.23.camel@buesod1.americas.hpqcorp.net>


* Davidlohr Bueso <davidlohr@hp.com> wrote:

> > 2)
> > 
> > I don't see the justification: this code gets executed in exec() where 
> > a new mm has just been allocated. There's only a single user of the mm 
> > and thus the critical section width of mmap_sem is more or less 
> > irrelevant.
> > 
> > mmap_sem critical section size only matters for codepaths that 
> > threaded programs can hit.
> 
> Yes, I was surprised by the performance boost I noticed when running 
> this patch. This weekend I re-ran the tests (including your 4/3 patch) 
> and noticed that while we're still getting some benefits (more like in 
> the +5% throughput range), it's not as good as I originally reported. I 
> believe the reason is because I had ran the tests on the vanilla kernel 
> without the max clock frequency, so the comparison was obviously not 
> fair. That said, I still think it's worth adding this patch, as it does 
> help at a micro-optimization level, and it's one less mmap_sem user we 
> have to worry about.

But it's a mmap_sem user that is essentially _guaranteed_ to have only a 
single user at that point, in the exec() path!

So I don't see how this can show _any_ measurable speedup, let alone a 5% 
speedup in a macro test. If our understanding is correct then the patch 
does nothing but shuffle around a flag setting operation. (the mmap_sem is 
equivalent to setting a single flag, in the single-user case.)

Now, if our understanding is incorrect then we need to improve our 
understanding.

Thanks,

	Ingo

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  reply	other threads:[~2013-10-21  5:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-10-18  0:50 [PATCH 0/3] mm,vdso: preallocate new vmas Davidlohr Bueso
2013-10-18  0:50 ` [PATCH 1/3] mm: add mlock_future_check helper Davidlohr Bueso
2013-10-23  9:30   ` walken
2013-10-18  0:50 ` [PATCH 2/3] mm/mlock: prepare params outside critical region Davidlohr Bueso
2013-10-23  9:33   ` walken
2013-10-23  9:46   ` Vlastimil Babka
2013-10-18  0:50 ` [PATCH 3/3] vdso: preallocate new vmas Davidlohr Bueso
2013-10-18  1:17   ` Linus Torvalds
2013-10-18  5:59   ` Richard Weinberger
2013-10-18  6:05   ` [PATCH 4/3] x86/vdso: Optimize setup_additional_pages() Ingo Molnar
2013-10-21  3:52     ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-10-21  5:27       ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2013-10-21  3:26   ` [PATCH 3/3] vdso: preallocate new vmas Davidlohr Bueso
2013-10-23  9:53     ` walken
2013-10-25  0:55       ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-10-22 15:48 ` [PATCH 0/3] mm,vdso: " walken
2013-10-22 16:20   ` Linus Torvalds
2013-10-22 17:04     ` Michel Lespinasse
2013-10-22 17:54   ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-10-23 10:13     ` Michel Lespinasse
2013-10-23 21:42       ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-10-23  2:46   ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-11-05  0:39 ` Davidlohr Bueso

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