From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Davidlohr Bueso <davidlohr@hp.com>
Cc: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Michel Lespinasse <walken@google.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>,
aswin@hp.com, linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Russell King <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
Richard Kuo <rkuo@codeaurora.org>,
Ralf Baechle <ralf@linux-mips.org>,
Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>,
Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com>,
Paul Mundt <lethal@linux-sh.org>,
Chris Metcalf <cmetcalf@tilera.com>,
Jeff Dike <jdike@addtoit.com>,
Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/3] x86/vdso: Optimize setup_additional_pages()
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 07:27:31 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131021052731.GA14476@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1382327556.2402.23.camel@buesod1.americas.hpqcorp.net>
* Davidlohr Bueso <davidlohr@hp.com> wrote:
> > 2)
> >
> > I don't see the justification: this code gets executed in exec() where
> > a new mm has just been allocated. There's only a single user of the mm
> > and thus the critical section width of mmap_sem is more or less
> > irrelevant.
> >
> > mmap_sem critical section size only matters for codepaths that
> > threaded programs can hit.
>
> Yes, I was surprised by the performance boost I noticed when running
> this patch. This weekend I re-ran the tests (including your 4/3 patch)
> and noticed that while we're still getting some benefits (more like in
> the +5% throughput range), it's not as good as I originally reported. I
> believe the reason is because I had ran the tests on the vanilla kernel
> without the max clock frequency, so the comparison was obviously not
> fair. That said, I still think it's worth adding this patch, as it does
> help at a micro-optimization level, and it's one less mmap_sem user we
> have to worry about.
But it's a mmap_sem user that is essentially _guaranteed_ to have only a
single user at that point, in the exec() path!
So I don't see how this can show _any_ measurable speedup, let alone a 5%
speedup in a macro test. If our understanding is correct then the patch
does nothing but shuffle around a flag setting operation. (the mmap_sem is
equivalent to setting a single flag, in the single-user case.)
Now, if our understanding is incorrect then we need to improve our
understanding.
Thanks,
Ingo
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-10-21 5:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-10-18 0:50 [PATCH 0/3] mm,vdso: preallocate new vmas Davidlohr Bueso
2013-10-18 0:50 ` [PATCH 1/3] mm: add mlock_future_check helper Davidlohr Bueso
2013-10-23 9:30 ` walken
2013-10-18 0:50 ` [PATCH 2/3] mm/mlock: prepare params outside critical region Davidlohr Bueso
2013-10-23 9:33 ` walken
2013-10-23 9:46 ` Vlastimil Babka
2013-10-18 0:50 ` [PATCH 3/3] vdso: preallocate new vmas Davidlohr Bueso
2013-10-18 1:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-10-18 5:59 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-10-18 6:05 ` [PATCH 4/3] x86/vdso: Optimize setup_additional_pages() Ingo Molnar
2013-10-21 3:52 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-10-21 5:27 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2013-10-21 3:26 ` [PATCH 3/3] vdso: preallocate new vmas Davidlohr Bueso
2013-10-23 9:53 ` walken
2013-10-25 0:55 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-10-22 15:48 ` [PATCH 0/3] mm,vdso: " walken
2013-10-22 16:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-10-22 17:04 ` Michel Lespinasse
2013-10-22 17:54 ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-10-23 10:13 ` Michel Lespinasse
2013-10-23 21:42 ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-10-23 2:46 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-11-05 0:39 ` Davidlohr Bueso
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