From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Davidlohr Bueso <davidlohr@hp.com>
Cc: Michel Lespinasse <walken@google.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Guan Xuetao <gxt@mprc.pku.edu.cn>,
"Chandramouleeswaran, Aswin" <aswin@hp.com>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: cache largest vma
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 18:59:48 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131113175948.GA12020@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1384362490.2527.20.camel@buesod1.americas.hpqcorp.net>
* Davidlohr Bueso <davidlohr@hp.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 2013-11-11 at 12:47 -0800, Davidlohr Bueso wrote:
> > On Mon, 2013-11-11 at 13:04 +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > > * Michel Lespinasse <walken@google.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 8:12 PM, Davidlohr Bueso <davidlohr@hp.com> wrote:
> > > > > 2) Oracle Data mining (4K pages)
> > > > > +------------------------+----------+------------------+---------+
> > > > > | mmap_cache type | hit-rate | cycles (billion) | stddev |
> > > > > +------------------------+----------+------------------+---------+
> > > > > | no mmap_cache | - | 63.35 | 0.20207 |
> > > > > | current mmap_cache | 65.66% | 19.55 | 0.35019 |
> > > > > | mmap_cache+largest VMA | 71.53% | 15.84 | 0.26764 |
> > > > > | 4 element hash table | 70.75% | 15.90 | 0.25586 |
> > > > > | per-thread mmap_cache | 86.42% | 11.57 | 0.29462 |
> > > > > +------------------------+----------+------------------+---------+
> > > > >
> > > > > This workload sure makes the point of how much we can benefit of
> > > > > caching the vma, otherwise find_vma() can cost more than 220% extra
> > > > > cycles. We clearly win here by having a per-thread cache instead of
> > > > > per address space. I also tried the same workload with 2Mb hugepages
> > > > > and the results are much more closer to the kernel build, but with the
> > > > > per-thread vma still winning over the rest of the alternatives.
> > > > >
> > > > > All in all I think that we should probably have a per-thread vma
> > > > > cache. Please let me know if there is some other workload you'd like
> > > > > me to try out. If folks agree then I can cleanup the patch and send it
> > > > > out.
> > > >
> > > > Per thread cache sounds interesting - with per-mm caches there is a real
> > > > risk that some modern threaded apps pay the cost of cache updates
> > > > without seeing much of the benefit. However, how do you cheaply handle
> > > > invalidations for the per thread cache ?
> > >
> > > The cheapest way to handle that would be to have a generation counter for
> > > the mm and to couple cache validity to a specific value of that.
> > > 'Invalidation' is then the free side effect of bumping the generation
> > > counter when a vma is removed/moved.
>
> Wouldn't this approach make us invalidate all vmas even when we
> just want to do it for one? [...]
Yes. If it's implemented as some sort of small, vma-size-weighted
LRU, then all these 'different' caches go away and there's just
this single LRU cache with a handful of entries cached.
This cache is then invalidated on munmap() et al. Which should be
fine, mmap()/munmap() is a slowpath relative to find_vma().
Thanks,
Ingo
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-11-13 17:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-11-01 20:17 [PATCH] mm: cache largest vma Davidlohr Bueso
2013-11-01 20:38 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-11-01 21:11 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-11-03 9:46 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-03 23:57 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-11-04 4:22 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-11-01 21:23 ` Rik van Riel
2013-11-03 10:12 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-04 4:20 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-11-04 4:48 ` converting unicore32 to gate_vma as done for arm (was Re: [PATCH] mm: cache largest vma) Al Viro
2013-11-05 2:49 ` 管雪涛
2013-11-11 7:25 ` converting unicore32 to gate_vma as done for arm (was " Al Viro
2013-11-04 7:00 ` [PATCH] mm: cache largest vma Ingo Molnar
2013-11-04 7:05 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-04 14:20 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-11-04 17:52 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-04 18:10 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-11-05 8:24 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-05 14:27 ` Jiri Olsa
2013-11-06 6:01 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-06 14:03 ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2013-11-03 18:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-11-04 4:04 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-11-04 7:36 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-04 14:56 ` Michel Lespinasse
2013-11-11 4:12 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-11-11 7:43 ` Michel Lespinasse
2013-11-11 12:04 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-11 20:47 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-11-13 17:08 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-11-13 17:59 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2013-11-13 18:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-11 12:01 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-11 18:24 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-11-11 20:47 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-11 20:59 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-11-11 21:09 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-04 7:03 ` Christoph Hellwig
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