From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 4/5] MCS Lock: Barrier corrections
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 11:06:17 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131120190616.GL4138@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1384973026.11046.465.camel@schen9-DESK>
On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 10:43:46AM -0800, Tim Chen wrote:
> On Wed, 2013-11-20 at 09:14 -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 03:46:43PM +0000, Will Deacon wrote:
> > > Hi Paul,
> > >
> > > On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 03:31:23PM +0000, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 05:37:43PM -0800, Tim Chen wrote:
> > > > > @@ -68,7 +72,12 @@ void mcs_spin_unlock(struct mcs_spinlock **lock, struct mcs_spinlock *node)
> > > > > while (!(next = ACCESS_ONCE(node->next)))
> > > > > arch_mutex_cpu_relax();
> > > > > }
> > > > > - ACCESS_ONCE(next->locked) = 1;
> > > > > - smp_wmb();
> > > > > + /*
> > > > > + * Pass lock to next waiter.
> > > > > + * smp_store_release() provides a memory barrier to ensure
> > > > > + * all operations in the critical section has been completed
> > > > > + * before unlocking.
> > > > > + */
> > > > > + smp_store_release(&next->locked, 1);
> > > >
> > > > However, there is one problem with this that I missed yesterday.
> > > >
> > > > Documentation/memory-barriers.txt requires that an unlock-lock pair
> > > > provide a full barrier, but this is not guaranteed if we use
> > > > smp_store_release() for unlock and smp_load_acquire() for lock.
> > > > At least one of these needs a full memory barrier.
> > >
> > > Hmm, so in the following case:
> > >
> > > Access A
> > > unlock() /* release semantics */
> > > lock() /* acquire semantics */
> > > Access B
> > >
> > > A cannot pass beyond the unlock() and B cannot pass the before the lock().
> > >
> > > I agree that accesses between the unlock and the lock can be move across both
> > > A and B, but that doesn't seem to matter by my reading of the above.
> > >
> > > What is the problematic scenario you have in mind? Are you thinking of the
> > > lock() moving before the unlock()? That's only permitted by RCpc afaiu,
> > > which I don't think any architectures supported by Linux implement...
> > > (ARMv8 acquire/release is RCsc).
> >
> > If smp_load_acquire() and smp_store_release() are both implemented using
> > lwsync on powerpc, and if Access A is a store and Access B is a load,
> > then Access A and Access B can be reordered.
> >
> > Of course, if every other architecture will be providing RCsc implementations
> > for smp_load_acquire() and smp_store_release(), which would not be a bad
> > thing, then another approach is for powerpc to use sync rather than lwsync
> > for one or the other of smp_load_acquire() or smp_store_release().
>
> Can we count on the xchg function in the beginning of mcs_lock to
> provide a memory barrier? It should provide an implicit memory
> barrier according to the memory-barriers document.
The problem with the implicit full barrier associated with the xchg()
function is that it is in the wrong place if the lock is contended.
We need to ensure that the previous lock holder's critical section
is seen by everyone to precede that of the next lock holder, and
we need transitivity. The only operations that are in the right place
to force the needed ordering in the contended case are those involved
in the lock handoff. :-(
Thanx, Paul
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2013-11-20 1:37 ` [PATCH v6 0/5] MCS Lock: MCS lock code cleanup and optimizations Tim Chen
2013-11-20 10:19 ` Will Deacon
2013-11-20 12:50 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-20 17:00 ` Will Deacon
2013-11-20 17:14 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-20 17:00 ` Tim Chen
2013-11-20 17:16 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-20 1:37 ` [PATCH v6 1/5] MCS Lock: Restructure the MCS lock defines and locking code into its own file Tim Chen
2013-11-20 1:37 ` [PATCH v6 2/5] MCS Lock: optimizations and extra comments Tim Chen
2013-11-20 1:37 ` [PATCH v6 3/5] MCS Lock: Move mcs_lock/unlock function into its own file Tim Chen
2013-11-20 1:37 ` [PATCH v6 4/5] MCS Lock: Barrier corrections Tim Chen
2013-11-20 15:31 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-20 15:46 ` Will Deacon
2013-11-20 17:14 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-20 18:43 ` Tim Chen
2013-11-20 19:06 ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2013-11-20 20:36 ` Tim Chen
2013-11-20 21:44 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-20 23:51 ` Tim Chen
2013-11-21 4:53 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-21 10:17 ` Will Deacon
2013-11-21 13:16 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-21 10:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-21 13:18 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-21 22:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-11-21 22:52 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-22 0:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-11-22 4:08 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-22 4:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-11-22 6:23 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-22 15:16 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-22 18:49 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-22 19:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-11-22 20:06 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-22 20:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-11-22 20:37 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-22 21:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-11-22 21:52 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-22 22:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-11-23 0:25 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-23 0:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-11-23 1:36 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-23 2:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-11-23 4:05 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-23 11:24 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-23 17:06 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-26 12:02 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-26 19:28 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-23 20:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-11-23 20:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-11-25 12:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-25 17:18 ` Will Deacon
2013-11-25 17:56 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-25 17:54 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-23 21:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-23 22:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-11-25 17:53 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-25 18:21 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-21 11:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-21 12:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-21 13:20 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-21 17:25 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-21 21:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-21 22:18 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-22 15:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-22 18:26 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-22 18:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-22 18:59 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-25 17:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-25 18:02 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-25 18:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-25 18:34 ` Tim Chen
2013-11-25 18:27 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-25 23:52 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-26 9:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-26 17:11 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-26 17:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-26 19:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-11-26 19:20 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-26 19:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-11-26 22:51 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-26 23:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-11-27 0:21 ` Thomas Gleixner
2013-11-27 0:39 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-27 1:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-11-27 1:31 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-27 10:16 ` Will Deacon
2013-11-27 17:11 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-28 11:40 ` Will Deacon
2013-11-28 17:38 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-28 18:03 ` Will Deacon
2013-11-28 18:27 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-28 18:53 ` Will Deacon
2013-11-28 19:50 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-29 16:17 ` Will Deacon
2013-11-29 16:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-11-29 18:18 ` Will Deacon
2013-11-30 17:38 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-26 19:21 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-27 16:58 ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-11-26 23:08 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-11-25 23:55 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-11-26 3:16 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-27 0:46 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-11-27 1:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-11-27 1:27 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-27 2:59 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-11-25 18:52 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-11-25 22:58 ` Tim Chen
2013-11-25 23:28 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-11-25 23:51 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-25 23:36 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-12-04 21:26 ` Andi Kleen
2013-12-04 22:07 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-21 13:19 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-20 1:37 ` [PATCH v6 5/5] MCS Lock: Allows for architecture specific mcs lock and unlock Tim Chen
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