From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 4/5] MCS Lock: Barrier corrections
Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2013 15:36:58 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131125233658.GV4138@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <52939C5A.3070208@zytor.com>
On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 10:52:10AM -0800, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> On 11/25/2013 09:35 AM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> >
> > I think this means x86 needs help too.
> >
> > Consider:
> >
> > x = y = 0
> >
> > w[x] = 1 | w[y] = 1
> > mfence | mfence
> > r[y] = 0 | r[x] = 0
> >
> > This is generally an impossible case, right? (Since if we observe y=0
> > this means that w[y]=1 has not yet happened, and therefore x=1, and
> > vice-versa).
> >
> > Now replace one of the mfences with smp_store_release(l1);
> > smp_load_acquire(l2); such that we have a RELEASE+ACQUIRE pair that
> > _should_ form a full barrier:
> >
> > w[x] = 1 | w[y] = 1
> > w[l1] = 1 | mfence
> > r[l2] = 0 | r[x] = 0
> > r[y] = 0 |
> >
> > At which point we can observe the impossible, because as per the rule:
> >
> > 'reads may be reordered with older writes to different locations'
> >
> > Our r[y] can slip before the w[x]=1.
>
> Yes, because although r[l2] and r[y] are ordered with respect to each
> other, they are allowed to be executed before w[x] and w[l1]. In other
> words, smp_store_release() followed by smp_load_acquire() to a different
> location do not form a full barrier. To the *same* location, they will.
In the case where we have a single CPU doing an unlock of one lock
followed by a lock of another lock using Tim Chen's MCS lock, there
will be an xchg() that will provide the needed full barrier.
If the unlock is from one CPU and the lock is from another CPU, then
Linux kernel only requires a full barrier in the case where both
the unlock and lock are acting on the same lock variable. Which is
the scenario under investigation.
Thanx, Paul
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2013-11-20 1:37 ` [PATCH v6 0/5] MCS Lock: MCS lock code cleanup and optimizations Tim Chen
2013-11-20 10:19 ` Will Deacon
2013-11-20 12:50 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-20 17:00 ` Will Deacon
2013-11-20 17:14 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-20 17:00 ` Tim Chen
2013-11-20 17:16 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-20 1:37 ` [PATCH v6 1/5] MCS Lock: Restructure the MCS lock defines and locking code into its own file Tim Chen
2013-11-20 1:37 ` [PATCH v6 2/5] MCS Lock: optimizations and extra comments Tim Chen
2013-11-20 1:37 ` [PATCH v6 3/5] MCS Lock: Move mcs_lock/unlock function into its own file Tim Chen
2013-11-20 1:37 ` [PATCH v6 4/5] MCS Lock: Barrier corrections Tim Chen
2013-11-20 15:31 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-20 15:46 ` Will Deacon
2013-11-20 17:14 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-20 18:43 ` Tim Chen
2013-11-20 19:06 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-20 20:36 ` Tim Chen
2013-11-20 21:44 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-20 23:51 ` Tim Chen
2013-11-21 4:53 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-21 10:17 ` Will Deacon
2013-11-21 13:16 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-21 10:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-21 13:18 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-21 22:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-11-21 22:52 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-22 0:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-11-22 4:08 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-22 4:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-11-22 6:23 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-22 15:16 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-22 18:49 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-22 19:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-11-22 20:06 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-22 20:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-11-22 20:37 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-22 21:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-11-22 21:52 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-22 22:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-11-23 0:25 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-23 0:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-11-23 1:36 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-23 2:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-11-23 4:05 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-23 11:24 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-23 17:06 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-26 12:02 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-26 19:28 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-23 20:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-11-23 20:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-11-25 12:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-25 17:18 ` Will Deacon
2013-11-25 17:56 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-25 17:54 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-23 21:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-23 22:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-11-25 17:53 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-25 18:21 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-21 11:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-21 12:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-21 13:20 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-21 17:25 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-21 21:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-21 22:18 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-22 15:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-22 18:26 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-22 18:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-22 18:59 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-25 17:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-25 18:02 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-25 18:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-25 18:34 ` Tim Chen
2013-11-25 18:27 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-25 23:52 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-26 9:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-26 17:11 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-26 17:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-26 19:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-11-26 19:20 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-26 19:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-11-26 22:51 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-26 23:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-11-27 0:21 ` Thomas Gleixner
2013-11-27 0:39 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-27 1:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-11-27 1:31 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-27 10:16 ` Will Deacon
2013-11-27 17:11 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-28 11:40 ` Will Deacon
2013-11-28 17:38 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-28 18:03 ` Will Deacon
2013-11-28 18:27 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-28 18:53 ` Will Deacon
2013-11-28 19:50 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-29 16:17 ` Will Deacon
2013-11-29 16:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-11-29 18:18 ` Will Deacon
2013-11-30 17:38 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-26 19:21 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-27 16:58 ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-11-26 23:08 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-11-25 23:55 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-11-26 3:16 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-27 0:46 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-11-27 1:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-11-27 1:27 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-27 2:59 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-11-25 18:52 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-11-25 22:58 ` Tim Chen
2013-11-25 23:28 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-11-25 23:51 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-25 23:36 ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2013-12-04 21:26 ` Andi Kleen
2013-12-04 22:07 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-21 13:19 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-20 1:37 ` [PATCH v6 5/5] MCS Lock: Allows for architecture specific mcs lock and unlock Tim Chen
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