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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Zhang Yanfei <zhangyanfei.yes@gmail.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Zhang Yanfei <zhangyanfei@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, "Rafael J . Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
	Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
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	Wanpeng Li <liwanp@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
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	Wen Congyang <wency@cn.fujitsu.com>,
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	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	"jweiner@redhat.com" <jweiner@redhat.com>,
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	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>, Chen Tang <imtangchen@gmail.com>,
	Tang Chen <tangchen@cn.fujitsu.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RESEND part2 v2 0/8] Arrange hotpluggable memory as ZONE_MOVABLE
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 10:53:04 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131204095304.GA2308@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <529E7114.9060107@gmail.com>


* Zhang Yanfei <zhangyanfei.yes@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello Andrew
> 
> On 12/04/2013 07:48 AM, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > On Tue, 03 Dec 2013 10:19:44 +0800 Zhang Yanfei <zhangyanfei@cn.fujitsu.com> wrote:
> > 
> >> The current Linux cannot migrate pages used by the kerenl because
> >> of the kernel direct mapping. In Linux kernel space, va = pa + PAGE_OFFSET.
> >> When the pa is changed, we cannot simply update the pagetable and
> >> keep the va unmodified. So the kernel pages are not migratable.
> >>
> >> There are also some other issues will cause the kernel pages not migratable.
> >> For example, the physical address may be cached somewhere and will be used.
> >> It is not to update all the caches.
> >>
> >> When doing memory hotplug in Linux, we first migrate all the pages in one
> >> memory device somewhere else, and then remove the device. But if pages are
> >> used by the kernel, they are not migratable. As a result, memory used by
> >> the kernel cannot be hot-removed.
> >>
> >> Modifying the kernel direct mapping mechanism is too difficult to do. And
> >> it may cause the kernel performance down and unstable. So we use the following
> >> way to do memory hotplug.
> >>
> >>
> >> [What we are doing]
> >>
> >> In Linux, memory in one numa node is divided into several zones. One of the
> >> zones is ZONE_MOVABLE, which the kernel won't use.
> >>
> >> In order to implement memory hotplug in Linux, we are going to arrange all
> >> hotpluggable memory in ZONE_MOVABLE so that the kernel won't use these memory.
> > 
> > How does the user enable this?  I didn't spot a Kconfig variable which
> > enables it.  Is there a boot option?
> 
> Yeah, there is a Kconfig variable "MOVABLE_NODE" and a boot option "movable_node"
> 
> mm/Kconfig
> 
> config MOVABLE_NODE

Some bikeshedding: I suspect 'movable nodes' is the right idiom to use 
here, unless the feature is restricted to a single node only.

So the option should be 'CONFIG_MOVABLE_NODES=y' and 
'movable_nodes=...'.

Thanks,

	Ingo

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      reply	other threads:[~2013-12-04  9:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-12-03  2:19 [PATCH RESEND part2 v2 0/8] Arrange hotpluggable memory as ZONE_MOVABLE Zhang Yanfei
2013-12-03  2:22 ` [PATCH RESEND part2 v2 1/8] x86: get pg_data_t's memory from other node Zhang Yanfei
2014-01-16 17:11   ` Mel Gorman
2014-01-17  0:15     ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-01-20  7:29     ` Tang Chen
2014-01-20 15:14       ` Mel Gorman
2014-02-06 10:12         ` Mel Gorman
2014-02-10  5:44           ` Tang Chen
2014-02-11 11:08             ` Mel Gorman
2014-02-12  7:11               ` Tang Chen
2013-12-03  2:24 ` [PATCH RESEND part2 v2 2/8] memblock, numa: Introduce flag into memblock Zhang Yanfei
2013-12-03  2:25 ` [PATCH RESEND part2 v2 3/8] memblock, mem_hotplug: Introduce MEMBLOCK_HOTPLUG flag to mark hotpluggable regions Zhang Yanfei
2013-12-03  2:25 ` [PATCH RESEND part2 v2 4/8] memblock: Make memblock_set_node() support different memblock_type Zhang Yanfei
2013-12-03  2:27 ` [PATCH RESEND part2 v2 5/8] acpi, numa, mem_hotplug: Mark hotpluggable memory in memblock Zhang Yanfei
2013-12-03  2:28 ` [PATCH RESEND part2 v2 6/8] acpi, numa, mem_hotplug: Mark all nodes the kernel resides un-hotpluggable Zhang Yanfei
2013-12-03 23:44   ` Andrew Morton
2013-12-04  2:09     ` [PATCH update " Zhang Yanfei
2013-12-03  2:29 ` [PATCH RESEND part2 v2 7/8] memblock, mem_hotplug: Make memblock skip hotpluggable regions if needed Zhang Yanfei
2013-12-03  2:30 ` [PATCH RESEND part2 v2 8/8] x86, numa, acpi, memory-hotplug: Make movable_node have higher priority Zhang Yanfei
2014-01-16 17:03   ` Mel Gorman
2013-12-03  2:45 ` [PATCH RESEND part2 v2 0/8] Arrange hotpluggable memory as ZONE_MOVABLE Zhang Yanfei
2013-12-03 23:48 ` Andrew Morton
2013-12-04  0:02   ` Zhang Yanfei
2013-12-04  9:53     ` Ingo Molnar [this message]

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