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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Alex Shi <alex.shi@linaro.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Fengguang Wu <fengguang.wu@intel.com>,
	H Peter Anvin <hpa@zytor.com>, Linux-X86 <x86@kernel.org>,
	Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] Fix ebizzy performance regression due to X86 TLB range flush v2
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2013 15:42:14 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131217144214.GA12370@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131217143253.GB11295@suse.de>


* Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de> wrote:

> [...]
>
> At that point it'll be time to look at profiles and see where we are 
> actually spending time because the possibilities of finding things 
> to fix through bisection will be exhausted.

Yeah.

One (heavy handed but effective) trick that can be used in such a 
situation is to just revert everything that is causing problems, and 
continue reverting until we get back to a v3.4 baseline performance.

Once such a 'clean' tree (or queue of patches) is achived, that can be 
used as a measurement base and the individual features can be 
re-applied again, one by one, with measurement and analysis becoming a 
lot easier.

> > Also it appears the Ebizzy numbers ought to be stable enough now 
> > to make the range-TLB-flush measurements more precise?
> 
> Right now, the tlbflush microbenchmark figures look awful on the 
> 8-core machine when the tlbflush shift patch and the schedule domain 
> fix are both applied.

I think that furthr strengthens the case for the 'clean base' approach 
I outlined above - but it's your call obviously ...

Thanks again for going through all this. Tracking multi-commit 
performance regressions across 1.5 years worth of commits is generally 
very hard. Does your testing effort comes from enterprise Linux QA 
testing, or did you ran into this problem accidentally?

Thanks,

	Ingo

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  reply	other threads:[~2013-12-17 14:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-12-13 20:01 [PATCH 0/4] Fix ebizzy performance regression due to X86 TLB range flush v2 Mel Gorman
2013-12-13 20:01 ` [PATCH 1/4] x86: mm: Clean up inconsistencies when flushing TLB ranges Mel Gorman
2013-12-13 20:01 ` [PATCH 2/4] x86: mm: Account for TLB flushes only when debugging Mel Gorman
2013-12-13 20:01 ` [PATCH 3/4] x86: mm: Change tlb_flushall_shift for IvyBridge Mel Gorman
2013-12-13 20:01 ` [PATCH 4/4] x86: mm: Eliminate redundant page table walk during TLB range flushing Mel Gorman
2013-12-13 21:16 ` [PATCH 0/4] Fix ebizzy performance regression due to X86 TLB range flush v2 Linus Torvalds
2013-12-13 22:38   ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-12-16 10:39     ` Mel Gorman
2013-12-16 17:17       ` Linus Torvalds
2013-12-17  9:55         ` Mel Gorman
2013-12-15 15:55   ` Mel Gorman
2013-12-15 16:17     ` Mel Gorman
2013-12-15 18:34     ` Linus Torvalds
2013-12-16 11:16       ` Mel Gorman
2013-12-16 10:24     ` Ingo Molnar
2013-12-16 12:59       ` Mel Gorman
2013-12-16 13:44         ` Ingo Molnar
2013-12-17  9:21           ` Mel Gorman
2013-12-17  9:26             ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-12-17 11:00             ` Ingo Molnar
2013-12-17 14:32               ` Mel Gorman
2013-12-17 14:42                 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2013-12-17 17:54                   ` Mel Gorman
2013-12-18 10:24                     ` Ingo Molnar
2013-12-19 14:24               ` Mel Gorman
2013-12-19 16:49                 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-12-20 11:13                   ` Mel Gorman
2013-12-20 11:18                     ` Ingo Molnar
2013-12-20 12:00                       ` Mel Gorman
2013-12-20 12:20                         ` Ingo Molnar
2013-12-20 13:55                           ` Mel Gorman
2013-12-18  7:28 ` Fengguang Wu
2013-12-19 14:34   ` Mel Gorman
2013-12-20 15:51     ` Fengguang Wu
2013-12-20 16:44       ` Mel Gorman
2013-12-21 15:49         ` Fengguang Wu

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