From: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>,
"Aneesh Kumar K.V" <aneesh.kumar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
Davidlohr Bueso <davidlohr.bueso@hp.com>,
David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Joonsoo Kim <js1304@gmail.com>,
Wanpeng Li <liwanp@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Naoya Horiguchi <n-horiguchi@ah.jp.nec.com>,
Hillf Danton <dhillf@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 13/14] mm, hugetlb: retry if failed to allocate and there is concurrent user
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 14:01:53 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131220140153.GC11295@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131219170202.0df2d82a2adefa3ab616bdaa@linux-foundation.org>
On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 05:02:02PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Dec 2013 15:53:59 +0900 Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com> wrote:
>
> > If parallel fault occur, we can fail to allocate a hugepage,
> > because many threads dequeue a hugepage to handle a fault of same address.
> > This makes reserved pool shortage just for a little while and this cause
> > faulting thread who can get hugepages to get a SIGBUS signal.
> >
> > To solve this problem, we already have a nice solution, that is,
> > a hugetlb_instantiation_mutex. This blocks other threads to dive into
> > a fault handler. This solve the problem clearly, but it introduce
> > performance degradation, because it serialize all fault handling.
> >
> > Now, I try to remove a hugetlb_instantiation_mutex to get rid of
> > performance degradation.
>
> So the whole point of the patch is to improve performance, but the
> changelog doesn't include any performance measurements!
>
I don't really deal with hugetlbfs any more and I have not examined this
series but I remember why I never really cared about this mutex. It wrecks
fault scalability but AFAIK fault scalability almost never mattered for
workloads using hugetlbfs. The most common user of hugetlbfs by far is
sysv shared memory. The memory is faulted early in the lifetime of the
workload and after that it does not matter. At worst, it hurts application
startup time but that is still poor motivation for putting a lot of work
into removing the mutex.
Microbenchmarks will be able to trigger problems in this area but it'd
be important to check if any workload that matters is actually hitting
that problem.
--
Mel Gorman
SUSE Labs
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Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-12-18 6:53 [PATCH v3 00/14] mm, hugetlb: remove a hugetlb_instantiation_mutex Joonsoo Kim
2013-12-18 6:53 ` [PATCH v3 01/14] mm, hugetlb: unify region structure handling Joonsoo Kim
2013-12-21 9:04 ` David Gibson
2014-01-07 2:37 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-12-18 6:53 ` [PATCH v3 02/14] mm, hugetlb: region manipulation functions take resv_map rather list_head Joonsoo Kim
2013-12-21 13:43 ` David Gibson
2014-01-07 2:39 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-12-18 6:53 ` [PATCH v3 03/14] mm, hugetlb: protect region tracking via newly introduced resv_map lock Joonsoo Kim
2013-12-21 13:58 ` David Gibson
2013-12-23 1:05 ` Joonsoo Kim
2013-12-24 12:00 ` David Gibson
2014-01-06 0:12 ` Joonsoo Kim
2014-01-07 2:39 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-12-18 6:53 ` [PATCH v3 04/14] mm, hugetlb: remove resv_map_put() Joonsoo Kim
2013-12-18 6:53 ` [PATCH v3 05/14] mm, hugetlb: make vma_resv_map() works for all mapping type Joonsoo Kim
2013-12-18 6:53 ` [PATCH v3 06/14] mm, hugetlb: remove vma_has_reserves() Joonsoo Kim
2013-12-18 6:53 ` [PATCH v3 07/14] mm, hugetlb: mm, hugetlb: unify chg and avoid_reserve to use_reserve Joonsoo Kim
2013-12-18 6:53 ` [PATCH v3 08/14] mm, hugetlb: call vma_needs_reservation before entering alloc_huge_page() Joonsoo Kim
2013-12-18 6:53 ` [PATCH v3 09/14] mm, hugetlb: remove a check for return value of alloc_huge_page() Joonsoo Kim
2013-12-18 6:53 ` [PATCH v3 10/14] mm, hugetlb: move down outside_reserve check Joonsoo Kim
2013-12-18 6:53 ` [PATCH v3 11/14] mm, hugetlb: move up anon_vma_prepare() Joonsoo Kim
2013-12-18 6:53 ` [PATCH v3 12/14] mm, hugetlb: clean-up error handling in hugetlb_cow() Joonsoo Kim
2013-12-18 6:53 ` [PATCH v3 13/14] mm, hugetlb: retry if failed to allocate and there is concurrent user Joonsoo Kim
2013-12-20 1:02 ` Andrew Morton
2013-12-20 1:58 ` Joonsoo Kim
2013-12-20 2:15 ` Andrew Morton
2013-12-20 5:00 ` Joonsoo Kim
2013-12-20 2:31 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-12-20 4:47 ` Joonsoo Kim
2013-12-20 14:01 ` Mel Gorman [this message]
2013-12-21 6:48 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-12-23 0:44 ` Joonsoo Kim
2013-12-23 2:11 ` Joonsoo Kim
2014-01-03 19:55 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-01-06 0:19 ` Joonsoo Kim
2014-01-06 12:19 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-01-07 1:57 ` Joonsoo Kim
2014-01-07 2:36 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-01-15 3:08 ` David Rientjes
2014-01-15 4:37 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-01-15 4:56 ` Andrew Morton
2014-01-15 20:47 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-01-15 20:50 ` Andrew Morton
2013-12-18 6:54 ` [PATCH v3 14/14] mm, hugetlb: remove a hugetlb_instantiation_mutex Joonsoo Kim
2014-03-31 16:27 ` [PATCH v3 00/14] " Dave Hansen
2014-03-31 17:26 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-03-31 18:41 ` Dave Hansen
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