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From: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
To: Fengguang Wu <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
Cc: Alex Shi <alex.shi@linaro.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	H Peter Anvin <hpa@zytor.com>, Linux-X86 <x86@kernel.org>,
	Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] Fix ebizzy performance regression due to X86 TLB range flush v2
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 16:44:26 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131220164426.GD11295@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131220155143.GA22595@localhost>

On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 11:51:43PM +0800, Fengguang Wu wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 02:34:50PM +0000, Mel Gorman wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 03:28:14PM +0800, Fengguang Wu wrote:
> > > Hi Mel,
> > > 
> > > I'd like to share some test numbers with your patches applied on top of v3.13-rc3.
> > > 
> > > Basically there are
> > > 
> > > 1) no big performance changes
> > > 
> > >   76628486           -0.7%   76107841       TOTAL vm-scalability.throughput
> > >     407038           +1.2%     412032       TOTAL hackbench.throughput
> > >      50307           -1.5%      49549       TOTAL ebizzy.throughput
> > > 
> > 
> > I'm assuming this was an ivybridge processor.
> 
> The test boxes brickland2 and lkp-ib03 are ivybridge; lkp-snb01 is sandybridge.
> 

Ok.

> > How many threads were ebizzy tested with?
> 
> The below case has params string "400%-5-30", which means
> 
>         nr_threads = 400% * nr_cpu = 4 * 48 = 192
>         iterations = 5
>         duration = 30
> 
>       v3.13-rc3       eabb1f89905a0c809d13
> ---------------  -------------------------  
>      50307 ~ 1%      -1.5%      49549 ~ 0%  lkp-ib03/micro/ebizzy/400%-5-30
>      50307           -1.5%      49549       TOTAL ebizzy.throughput
> 

That is a limited range of threads to test with but ok.

> > The memory ranges used by the vm scalability benchmarks are
> > probably too large to be affected by the series but I'm guessing.
> 
> Do you mean these lines?
> 
>    3345155 ~ 0%      -0.3%    3335172 ~ 0%  brickland2/micro/vm-scalability/16G-shm-pread-rand-mt
>   33249939 ~ 0%      +3.3%   34336155 ~ 1%  brickland2/micro/vm-scalability/1T-shm-pread-seq     
> 
> The two cases run 128 threads/processes, each accessing randomly/sequentially
> a 64GB shm file concurrently. Sorry the 16G/1T prefixes are somehow misleading.
> 

It's ok, the conclusion is still the same. The regions are still too
large to be really affected the series.

> > I doubt hackbench is doing any flushes and the 1.2% is noise.
> 
> Here are the proc-vmstat.nr_tlb_remote_flush numbers for hackbench:
> 
>        513 ~ 3%  +4.3e+16%  2.192e+17 ~85%  lkp-nex05/micro/hackbench/800%-process-pipe
>        603 ~ 3%  +7.7e+16%  4.669e+17 ~13%  lkp-nex05/micro/hackbench/800%-process-socket
>       6124 ~17%  +5.7e+15%  3.474e+17 ~26%  lkp-nex05/micro/hackbench/800%-threads-pipe
>       7565 ~49%  +5.5e+15%  4.128e+17 ~68%  lkp-nex05/micro/hackbench/800%-threads-socket
>      21252 ~ 6%  +1.3e+15%  2.728e+17 ~39%  lkp-snb01/micro/hackbench/1600%-threads-pipe
>      24516 ~16%  +8.3e+14%  2.034e+17 ~53%  lkp-snb01/micro/hackbench/1600%-threads-socket
> 

This is a surprise. The differences I can understand because of changes
in accounting but not the flushes themselves. The only flushes I would
expect are when the process exits and the regions are torn down.

The exception would be if automatic NUMA balancing was enabled and this
was a NUMA machine. In that case, NUMA hinting faults could be migrating
memory and triggering flushes.

Could you do something like

# perf probe native_flush_tlb_others
# cd /sys/kernel/debug/tracing
# echo sym-offset > trace_options
# echo sym-addr > trace_options
# echo stacktrace > trace_options
# echo 1 > events/probe/native_flush_tlb_others/enable
# cat trace_pipe > /tmp/log

and get a breakdown of what the source of these remote flushes are
please?

> This time, the ebizzy params are refreshed and the test case is
> exercised in all our test machines. The results that have changed are:
> 
>       v3.13-rc3       eabb1f89905a0c809d13  
> ---------------  -------------------------  
>        873 ~ 0%      +0.7%        879 ~ 0%  lkp-a03/micro/ebizzy/200%-100-10
>        873 ~ 0%      +0.7%        879 ~ 0%  lkp-a04/micro/ebizzy/200%-100-10
>        873 ~ 0%      +0.8%        880 ~ 0%  lkp-a06/micro/ebizzy/200%-100-10
>      49242 ~ 0%      -1.2%      48650 ~ 0%  lkp-ib03/micro/ebizzy/200%-100-10
>      26176 ~ 0%      -1.6%      25760 ~ 0%  lkp-sbx04/micro/ebizzy/200%-100-10
>       2738 ~ 0%      +0.2%       2744 ~ 0%  lkp-t410/micro/ebizzy/200%-100-10
>      80776           -1.2%      79793       TOTAL ebizzy.throughput
> 

No change on lkp-ib03 which I would have expected some difference. Thing
is, for ebizzy to notice the number of TLB entries matter. On both
machines I tested, the last level TLB had 512 entries. How many entries
are on the last level TLB on lkp-ib03?

> > I do see a few major regressions like this
> > 
> > >     324497 ~ 0%    -100.0%          0 ~ 0%  brickland2/micro/vm-scalability/16G-truncate
> > 
> > but I have no idea what the test is doing and whether something happened
> > that the test broke that time or if it's something to be really
> > concerned about.
> 
> This test case simply creates sparse files, populate them with zeros,
> then delete them in parallel. Here $mem is physical memory size 128G,
> $nr_cpu is 120.
> 
> for i in `seq $nr_cpu`
> do      
>         create_sparse_file $SPARSE_FILE-$i $((mem / nr_cpu))
>         cp $SPARSE_FILE-$i /dev/null
> done
> 
> for i in `seq $nr_cpu`
> do      
>         rm $SPARSE_FILE-$i &
> done
> 

In itself, that does not explain why the result was 0 with the series
applied. The 3.13-rc3 result was "324497". 324497 what?

-- 
Mel Gorman
SUSE Labs

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  reply	other threads:[~2013-12-20 16:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-12-13 20:01 [PATCH 0/4] Fix ebizzy performance regression due to X86 TLB range flush v2 Mel Gorman
2013-12-13 20:01 ` [PATCH 1/4] x86: mm: Clean up inconsistencies when flushing TLB ranges Mel Gorman
2013-12-13 20:01 ` [PATCH 2/4] x86: mm: Account for TLB flushes only when debugging Mel Gorman
2013-12-13 20:01 ` [PATCH 3/4] x86: mm: Change tlb_flushall_shift for IvyBridge Mel Gorman
2013-12-13 20:01 ` [PATCH 4/4] x86: mm: Eliminate redundant page table walk during TLB range flushing Mel Gorman
2013-12-13 21:16 ` [PATCH 0/4] Fix ebizzy performance regression due to X86 TLB range flush v2 Linus Torvalds
2013-12-13 22:38   ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-12-16 10:39     ` Mel Gorman
2013-12-16 17:17       ` Linus Torvalds
2013-12-17  9:55         ` Mel Gorman
2013-12-15 15:55   ` Mel Gorman
2013-12-15 16:17     ` Mel Gorman
2013-12-15 18:34     ` Linus Torvalds
2013-12-16 11:16       ` Mel Gorman
2013-12-16 10:24     ` Ingo Molnar
2013-12-16 12:59       ` Mel Gorman
2013-12-16 13:44         ` Ingo Molnar
2013-12-17  9:21           ` Mel Gorman
2013-12-17  9:26             ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-12-17 11:00             ` Ingo Molnar
2013-12-17 14:32               ` Mel Gorman
2013-12-17 14:42                 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-12-17 17:54                   ` Mel Gorman
2013-12-18 10:24                     ` Ingo Molnar
2013-12-19 14:24               ` Mel Gorman
2013-12-19 16:49                 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-12-20 11:13                   ` Mel Gorman
2013-12-20 11:18                     ` Ingo Molnar
2013-12-20 12:00                       ` Mel Gorman
2013-12-20 12:20                         ` Ingo Molnar
2013-12-20 13:55                           ` Mel Gorman
2013-12-18  7:28 ` Fengguang Wu
2013-12-19 14:34   ` Mel Gorman
2013-12-20 15:51     ` Fengguang Wu
2013-12-20 16:44       ` Mel Gorman [this message]
2013-12-21 15:49         ` Fengguang Wu

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