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From: Joel Becker <jlbec@evilplan.org>
To: Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>, Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org" <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Chris Mason <clm@fb.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>,
	"linux-ide@vger.kernel.org" <linux-ide@vger.kernel.org>,
	"mgorman@suse.de" <mgorman@suse.de>,
	"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"lsf-pc@lists.linux-foundation.org"
	<lsf-pc@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	Ric Wheeler <rwheeler@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Lsf-pc] [LSF/MM TOPIC] really large storage sectors - going beyond 4096 bytes
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 13:21:26 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140123212125.GA25376@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140123125550.GB6853@thunk.org>

On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 07:55:50AM -0500, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 07:35:58PM +1100, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > > 
> > > I expect it would be relatively simple to get large blocksizes working
> > > on powerpc with 64k PAGE_SIZE.  So before diving in and doing huge
> > > amounts of work, perhaps someone can do a proof-of-concept on powerpc
> > > (or ia64) with 64k blocksize.
> > 
> > Reality check: 64k block sizes on 64k page Linux machines has been
> > used in production on XFS for at least 10 years. It's exactly the
> > same case as 4k block size on 4k page size - one page, one buffer
> > head, one filesystem block.
> 
> This is true for ext4 as well.  Block size == page size support is
> pretty easy; the hard part is when block size > page size, due to
> assumptions in the VM layer that requires that FS system needs to do a
> lot of extra work to fudge around.  So the real problem comes with
> trying to support 64k block sizes on a 4k page architecture, and can
> we do it in a way where every single file system doesn't have to do
> their own specific hacks to work around assumptions made in the VM
> layer.

Yup, ditto for ocfs2.

Joel

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-01-23 21:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-12-20  9:30 LSF/MM 2014 Call For Proposals Mel Gorman
2014-01-06 22:20 ` [LSF/MM TOPIC] [ATTEND] persistent memory progress, management of storage & file systems Ric Wheeler
2014-01-06 22:32   ` faibish, sorin
2014-01-07 19:44     ` Joel Becker
2014-01-21  7:00 ` LSF/MM 2014 Call For Proposals Michel Lespinasse
2014-01-22  3:04 ` [LSF/MM TOPIC] really large storage sectors - going beyond 4096 bytes Ric Wheeler
2014-01-22  5:20   ` Joel Becker
2014-01-22  7:14     ` Hannes Reinecke
2014-01-22  9:34   ` [Lsf-pc] " Mel Gorman
2014-01-22 14:10     ` Ric Wheeler
2014-01-22 14:34       ` Mel Gorman
2014-01-22 14:58         ` Ric Wheeler
2014-01-22 15:19           ` Mel Gorman
2014-01-22 17:02             ` Chris Mason
2014-01-22 17:21               ` James Bottomley
2014-01-22 18:02                 ` Chris Mason
2014-01-22 18:13                   ` James Bottomley
2014-01-22 18:17                     ` Ric Wheeler
2014-01-22 18:35                       ` James Bottomley
2014-01-22 18:39                         ` Ric Wheeler
2014-01-22 19:30                           ` James Bottomley
2014-01-22 19:50                             ` Andrew Morton
2014-01-22 20:13                               ` Chris Mason
2014-01-23  2:46                                 ` David Lang
2014-01-23  5:21                                   ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-01-23  8:35                               ` Dave Chinner
2014-01-23 12:55                                 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-01-23 19:49                                   ` Dave Chinner
2014-01-23 21:21                                   ` Joel Becker [this message]
2014-01-22 20:57                             ` Martin K. Petersen
2014-01-22 18:37                     ` Chris Mason
2014-01-22 18:40                       ` Ric Wheeler
2014-01-22 18:47                       ` James Bottomley
2014-01-23 21:27                         ` Joel Becker
2014-01-23 21:34                           ` Chris Mason
2014-01-23  8:27                     ` Dave Chinner
2014-01-23 15:47                       ` James Bottomley
2014-01-23 16:44                         ` Mel Gorman
2014-01-23 19:55                           ` James Bottomley
2014-01-24 10:57                             ` Mel Gorman
2014-01-30  4:52                               ` Matthew Wilcox
2014-01-30  6:01                                 ` Dave Chinner
2014-01-30 10:50                                 ` Mel Gorman
2014-01-23 20:34                           ` Dave Chinner
2014-01-23 20:54                         ` Christoph Lameter
2014-01-23  8:24                 ` Dave Chinner
2014-01-23 20:48             ` Christoph Lameter
2014-01-22 20:47           ` Martin K. Petersen
2014-01-23  8:21         ` Dave Chinner
2014-01-22 15:14     ` Chris Mason
2014-01-22 16:03       ` James Bottomley
2014-01-22 16:45         ` Ric Wheeler
2014-01-22 17:00           ` James Bottomley
2014-01-22 21:05             ` Jan Kara
2014-01-23 20:47     ` Christoph Lameter
2014-01-24 11:09       ` Mel Gorman
2014-01-24 15:44         ` Christoph Lameter
2014-01-22 15:54   ` James Bottomley
2014-03-14  9:02 ` Update on LSF/MM [was Re: LSF/MM 2014 Call For Proposals] James Bottomley

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